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U.S. oil gusher blows out projections
Fuel Fix ^ | February 20, 2012 | Simone Sebastian

Posted on 02/20/2012 7:56:14 AM PST by thackney

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To: nuke rocketeer
It probably either did not scale up well, or ran into reliability problems

One factor was increased costs of feed stock. Seems that as soon as they were ready to symbiotically work with the Con-Agra turkey plant, that plant suddenly wanted paid for their waste that they had previously been paying to get rid of.

A second factor was public complaints. They could not control the stench of the supposedly stench-free process. It was reportedly worse than early paper mills, and IIRC put them in violation of their permits.

IAC, it was far from a rousing success.

41 posted on 02/22/2012 10:30:24 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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I don’t understand how some people are obsessed with building a new refinery when it is far cheaper to expand existing refineries.

We have built the equivalent of several new refineries by expanding the existing ones.

Elk Point was planned to be a 400 MBPD refinery. We have added the equivalent of about six refineries this size.


42 posted on 02/22/2012 10:58:45 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Expanding existing refineries is also easier to get around EPA regulations.


43 posted on 02/22/2012 11:13:47 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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To: thackney

$10,000 per barrel/day cheaper to expand, according to one of the articles.

OTOH, 1,000+/- fewer miles of pipeline to build from the source to refining, while not then having to ship finished product all the way back again.


44 posted on 02/22/2012 11:27:34 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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EPA coming in to shut it all down in 3...2...1...


45 posted on 02/22/2012 11:47:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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The same EPA regulations apply. In the refinery expansions I’ve participated in, filing for those permits was always a big requirement.


46 posted on 02/23/2012 6:23:36 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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