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After the burqa, French take objection to halal meat
Reuters ^ | Feb 21, 2012

Posted on 02/21/2012 8:29:25 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

After the burqa, French take objection to halal meat

Paris : A TV documentary’s revelation that slaughterhouses around Paris have switched meat production entirely to halal methods has stirred a political storm in France, where attitudes to Europe’s largest Muslim minority are a subtext in a presidential election campaign.

The France 2 documentary last week said all of the abattoirs in the greater Paris region were producing only halal-style meat, selling some without labelling it as such to avoid the cost of running separate lines for halal and non-halal customers.

Far-right candidate Marine Le Pen – who is hoping to win voters away from centre-right President Nicolas Sarkozy ahead of the two-round election in April and May – has seized on the issue.

“All the abattoirs of the Paris region have succumbed to the rules of a minority. We have reason to be disgusted,” Le Pen told a rally in Lille on Saturday, pledging to file a legal complaint.

In a country known for its obsession with the provenance of its cuisine, the issue could play with a wider audience than the far right, including animal rights groups, consumer advocates and food industry professionals.

Some European animal rights campaigners say that the Islamic halal and Jewish kosher rules for ritual slaughter are less humane than standard European practice, because they ban the practice of stunning animals before they are killed.

“This polemic requires us to call for more transparency,” Frederic Freund, director of a group called Aid to Animals in Abattoirs (OABA), told RTL radio during a call-in programme.

Halal meat, slaughtered according to Islamic norms, is a booming market in France and growing demand for it on school, hospital and company canteen menus has already caused tension and misundersta

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: burqa; france; halal; islam

1 posted on 02/21/2012 8:29:30 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Butterball turkeys are Halal.


2 posted on 02/21/2012 8:36:00 AM PST by DManA
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How interesting. After nearly a century of being labeled surrender monkeys, the French of all nations, are the only ones standing up to the biggest threat of the new millinuim. I see them in a much different light....


3 posted on 02/21/2012 8:38:14 AM PST by Afterguard
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To: DManA

Then I will stick with the Honey Baked Ham!!


4 posted on 02/21/2012 8:39:40 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m all for banning the burqa, but I’m afraid this is going to snowball into discrimination against any religion soon enough.


5 posted on 02/21/2012 8:47:57 AM PST by MNDude
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To: MNDude

Viva la France!!!!!


6 posted on 02/21/2012 8:50:38 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Afterguard
. After nearly a century of being labeled surrender monkeys, the French of all nations, are the only ones standing up to the biggest threat of the new millinuim.

No, "Far-right" candidate Marine Le Pen is standing up to them. The French Establishment doesn't care.

Le Pen is pro-market, anti-immigration, anti-welfare-state. Naturally, the Left despises her and smears her at any opportunity.

7 posted on 02/21/2012 8:51:27 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Afterguard
Marine Le Pen is also pro-Israel, which really drives the French Establishment crazy.
8 posted on 02/21/2012 8:54:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Afterguard

Good for them French.

(Slowly slowy, catchee monkey...........)


9 posted on 02/21/2012 8:56:26 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for ALL VOTING. Let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: PapaBear3625

You sure she is pro-free market. I remember her father was the typical European statist in his economic views. As I remember he was quite Anti-American too.


10 posted on 02/21/2012 8:58:17 AM PST by Reily
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To: PapaBear3625

Well her father certainly wasn’t!


11 posted on 02/21/2012 8:59:36 AM PST by Reily
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Post 9/11 you would have to be delusional to think that food marked ‘halal’ hadn’t been tampered with...repeatedly.


12 posted on 02/21/2012 9:02:58 AM PST by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: Reily
Well her father certainly wasn’t!

My adult daughter does not share all my political views either. Your point?

My two points are:

1) that SHE runs the National Front party now, not her father, and

2) that if France continues with its Islamization, that it will be increasingly anti-Israel and anti-Jewish.

Marine le Pen is the ONLY French politician whose policies are long-term pro-Israel.

13 posted on 02/21/2012 9:54:06 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Reily
Marine Le Pen is pro-life and anti-euthanasia. As for her other positions, she seems a bit populist, but is likely to be as conservative (as we in the US understand the term) as any french politician we are likely to see. Check her wiki page for more.
14 posted on 02/21/2012 10:03:57 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m glad to see that renowned French priggishness finally being put to good use :-)


15 posted on 02/21/2012 10:09:16 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: PapaBear3625

well then ...good!


16 posted on 02/21/2012 10:10:30 AM PST by Reily
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"Some European animal rights campaigners say that the Islamic halal and Jewish kosher rules for ritual slaughter are less humane than standard European practice, because they ban the practice of stunning animals before they are killed."

Then some "European animal rights campaigners' are morons.

Halal involves hacking and sawing through the animals neck with zero concern for a quick a painless harvest. It's excellent practice for that other well-known and compassionate muslim religious practice, beheading.

Kosher slaughter demands a pious Jew wielding an ultra sharp knife, one that is repeatedly checked for nicks and re-sharpened, and an ultra-fast SINGLE precise cut to make sure the blood leaves the animal's brain in seconds so the animal feels as little pain as possible.

To ensure that the knife is sharp and the process is done correctly, the meat is inspected after slaughter, and along with looking for any imperfection in the lungs, if the knife is found to be dull and/or the cut was done improperly, the meat is not termed kosher and the slaughterhouse loses income.

KASHRUS INCLUDES A RELIGIOUS MOTIVATION TO BE HUMANE TO G-D'S CREATURES to help ensure a man's compassion for his fellow, and is MARKET DRIVEN to make sure it's done right.

17 posted on 02/21/2012 12:44:38 PM PST by Yehuda
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I cannot understand why anyone would be against halal or Kosher foods.


18 posted on 02/21/2012 3:47:04 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: hoosierham
Viva la France!!!!!

Vive la Porc!!!

19 posted on 02/21/2012 3:55:45 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Yehuda

As you describe the killing process, it’s indisputable that it is not as humane as stunning the animal before all that takes place.


20 posted on 02/21/2012 4:03:09 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Presuming you are speaking of halal.

IIRC it was either a Cornell University or a Colorado State Veterinarian study that showed no more evidence of pain/panic from kosher slaughter than with stunning (measuring chemicals in the brain and muscles, BP etc).

Indeed there are more than a few anecdotal reports of stunned animals not being killed by the stunning, and then being slaughtered while still alive.

You know what they say - there are two things you don’t want to see being made—sausage and legislation.


21 posted on 02/21/2012 10:09:40 PM PST by Yehuda
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