Posted on 02/23/2012 2:04:30 PM PST by Jeff Head
KORAN BURNING AND AFGHANISTAN
February 23, 2012
So, this last week, some terrorist and enemy combatant detainees in our Afghanistan detention and prison camps were using verses from the Korans that we had supplied to them to stir up more terror mindedness amongst the other detainees, quoting from the Koran to do so. Our forces took away those Korans and sent them to be burned.America at the Crossroads of HistoryThe fundamentalist Islamics found out about this and began rioting. Two American soldiers were apparently killed as a result. Our "brave," anti-American President, Barack Hussein Obama, apologized and now the Afghan President Karzai wants our people to be put on trial.
Well, in my own opinion, we should tell Karzai, and Obama, and anyone who is "embarassed" by this straight where to go.
For Heaven's sake, we are treating these terrorists and enemy fighters that we capture with kid gloves. Like we are somehow the culprits here...and the President of the US is in the forefront of this attitude.
These prisoners should be in solitatiry confinement and subjected to strong interrogation techniques, yes, including water boarding, until we squeeze evey bit of info we can out of them.
Then, under the Geneva convention, as irregulars, they should be summarily executed.
If the populations around them don't like it and riot in protest and in support of the terrorist enemies, then we should treat them the same way we treated the German and Japanese populations in World War II who supported the Nazis and the Emperor...meaning we bomb and fire bomb their cities, towns, villages, and huts until they all abjectly surrender and want NO MORE of fundamental Islam.
Until they demand fundamentalists either leave their area or they hunt them down themselves and irradicate them to end our reprisals.
Thats how we defeated the Nazis and the Imperialists and we have had good Germans and good Japanese ever since.
It's past time we created "good" Islamics out of those fighting against us in the same manner. That's, IMHO, how this has to be handled or we will forever be fighting these terrorist insurgents and enemy fighters and their people because we do not have the will to humble and defeat them sufficiently to produce a disavowal of this wretched, 17th century ideology.
At every turn he has taken the side of the so-called Arab Spring revolters who are fundamental islamics, like the Muslim Borhterhood in Egypt, and the Al Quida derivitives in Libya.
He did not lift a hand to help the true freedom fighters in Iran, rather he wanted to negotiate with the Iranian dictator while the protesters were slaughtered.
This is what he is giving us:
Sure. I see your point. But do piracy and terrorism deserve such treatment? If a nuclear attack was inititated against us, yes; I could see reducing a nation to rubble.
I seriously believe that neither Somalia nor Afghanistan have been dealt with properly. Quick, devastating strikes that hurt the populations shielding the pirates/terrorists seems a far more effective and personal means of getting our message of “cease and desist” protecting the criminal element, or your people will suffer greater consequences.
I do not consider 9-11 to have been a minor event. I’m old enough to remember the warnings back in the early 1970s that eventually a devastating terrorist attack would happen on our shores. But I know perceive the attack to be against Western Civilization and not just against the U.S.
Islamic Civilization has been an abject failure compared to the west. It depresses many Muslims, and their first impulse is to destroy us rather than learn how we achieved so much in a short period of time. The ME has been called, by historian, the graveyard of empires. The people who inhabit that region must change and is will have to come from within. I think we should just contain the insanity and no longer do business with the region.
Five hundred years ago the two existing Global Powers were the Ottoman Empire and China’s Ming Dynasty. If someone had spread the belief that in the future millions of people would know and live in unimaginable wealth generated by great industries in what was then a rustic Europe and a wilderness in North America, that someone would have been declared insane.
The Muslims seem headed on a self-destructive trajectory while the Chinese are headed out to space, a bold move, as that nation doesn’t have a history of settling and civilizing frontiers. We do.
I’m not comfortable dealing closely with nations of the ME but China is different. We should look towards building closer commercial relations with China for our mutual benefits. They are intending to weaponize near space. We should work towards creating a relationship where that isn’t necessary.
Piracy is not a unified system but needs to be dealt with mercilessly wherever we found it. it’s how our forefathers irradicated it. people engaging in it new if they were caught they would be hanged.
Radical Islam is a cohesive, large, world-wide effort that has been at war with us for decades. We can defeat them and those supporting them in the same way we did Nazi Germay and Imperial Japan if we have the will to do so. There are many parallesl in the fanaticism and the supportt they receive.
I believe until we have the will to do so, we will never win a complete victory but forever will be bled by their terror attacks.
I do not want to wait until they set of a nuc in a US city to do what so patently has to be done IMHO.
Burning a book justifies burning a people.
Jeff Head didn’t say that. He said that if we are going to wage war, then let’s damn sure have an unconditional surrender war in the tradition of Eisenhower and MacArthur.
The time for that has come and gone though. This should have been conducted as an all-out reprisal as suggested by Jeff, and the we should have promised to return if they got out of line again.
I didn’t say Jeff Head said that.
That is what the Islamists are saying in Afghanistan.
Sort of the topic of the thread, actually.
Bring in the helicopter gunships.
This cowardly kissing of muzzie butts has got to stop.
The strange thing about this whole situation is that the prisoners desecrated the koran by writing in them (they changed the contents, which I believe is forbidden by a muslim). I don’t believe they would be considered holy, because of this. The burning would be just to dispose of the desecrated korans.
There is no ‘winning once and for all’ against these dirt people. They’ll just crawl back under a rock until we’ve left. That’s what roaches do.
It’s time to GTHO of stupid Afghanistan and stop asking our troops to die for these useless dirtbag Muslim Afghanis. We’ve accomplished all that is possible to accomplish.
I say we skip a few steps and just burn Afghanistan until no stone stands upon another.
Islam literally lays waste to every part of the earth it inhabits. Andrew Bostum in his work The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims
Then there's a Quigley's characterization of what he called The Pakistani-Peruvian axis. It's a stunningly accurate exposition of why Islamic culture as such is so corrupt and nihilistic.
We can never make peace with such a dark side of humanity. The only lasting peace with Islam we'll ever see is when Allah is worshiped only in hell.
It's amazing what a good "Cleansing by fire" will do.
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