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Why Apologize to Afghanistan?
National Review ^ | February 24, 2012 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 02/25/2012 11:00:11 AM PST by Marguerite

We have officially lost our minds.

The New York Times reports that President Obama has sent a formal letter of apology to Afghanistan’s ingrate president, Hamid Karzai, for the burning of Korans at a U.S. military base. The only upside of the apology is that it appears (based on the Times account) to be couched as coming personally from our blindly Islamophilic president — “I wish to express my deep regret for the reported incident. . . . I extend to you and the Afghani people my sincere apologies.” It is not couched as an apology from the American people, whose frame of mind will be outrage, not contrition, as the facts become more widely known.

First, as usual, Muslims — not al-Qaeda terrorists, but ordinary, mainstream Muslims — are rioting and murdering over the burning (indeed, the inadvertent burning) of a book. Yes, it’s the Koran, but it’s a book all the same — and one that, moderate Muslims never tire of telling us, doesn’t really mean everything it says anyhow.

Muslim leaders and their leftist apologists are also forever lecturing the United States about “proportionality” in our war-fighting. Yet when it comes to Muslim proportionality, Americans are supposed to shrug meekly and accept the “you burn books, we kill people” law of the jungle.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; andymccarthy; islam; koranburning; obamaapology

1 posted on 02/25/2012 11:00:17 AM PST by Marguerite
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To: onyx; TitansAFC; b9; Gator113; Marcella; katiedidit1; annieokie; true believer forever; ...

“Understand this: Muslims are killing Muslims all the time. Sunnis attack Shiites, Shiites attack Sunnis. Ahmadi Muslims are attacked in sundry Islamic countries. Often, these Muslim-on-Muslim atrocities involve not only murder but also the torching of the other sect’s homes and mosques — necessarily meaning Muslims are burning Korans, and with far more mens rea than the American personnel had in Afghanistan. None of these atrocities incite global Islamic rioting — it is just Muslim-on-Muslim violence, the numbing familiarity of which calls for no comment, except perhaps to mumble that it must have something to do with how “fiercely protective of their Islamic faith” Muslims are. (Actually, it has to do with Muslims’ deeming the perceived heresies of other Muslims to be apostasy, for which sharia prescribes the death penalty.)

Also understand this: In sharia societies, non-Muslim religious articles are confiscated and destroyed every single day as a matter of policy. In Saudi Arabia, where sharia is the law of the land, where Mecca and Medina are closed to non-Muslims, government guidelines prohibit Jews and Christians from bringing Bibles, crucifixes, Stars of David, and similar artifacts emblematic of their faith into the country. When that prohibition is violated, the offending items are seized and burned or otherwise destroyed. Moreover, though Saudis deny having an official policy that bans Jews from entering the country at all, reports are rampant of travelers’ being denied visas either because they are Jewish or because their passports bear stamps indicative of prior travel to Israel.”

2 posted on 02/25/2012 11:03:08 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Oh, hell. We all know how little Barack loves to bow and apologize for the country he loathes.

3 posted on 02/25/2012 11:09:12 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: Marguerite

it is irrational to placate or encourage “muslim” societies. Islam is incompatible with Judeo/Christian Ethics. They are Satanic. The men in Afghanistan regularly rape the boys. These people are inbred and extremely immoral and deny human rights to all other groups, even their own children. They are of the mindset of Sandusky and the radical homosexuals who want paganism reestablished so we have muslim-like tyranny so they can use children how they want. They all hate women-—any woman who supports “islam” is suicidal.

4 posted on 02/25/2012 11:11:12 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Marguerite
Our people in Afghanistan are too incompetent or lazy to completely burn a book.They threw the remnants in the trash,knowing that the locals collect and dispose of that trash.The locals find the burnt Korans and go apes-it and kill some of our military service members.Who's going to apologize for THAT??
5 posted on 02/25/2012 11:16:21 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Marguerite

Andrew McCarthy is a great commentator. He should be on shows more.

6 posted on 02/25/2012 11:18:49 AM PST by Politics4US
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To: savagesusie

BTW, those who don’t know it-—the Big Marxist Lie that homosexuality is genetic -—Homosexuality is learned behavior. The worldview of hating the opposite sex and fixation on same sex is caused by trauma and the inability to mature and flourish in a healthy manner.

Boys or girls who are abused will be perverted (just as all animal studies prove and psychoanalysis proves)....and they learn to hate and NEVER trust. This abuse can be emotional also==where boys are belittled for their manliness or have no positive male role models.

7 posted on 02/25/2012 11:20:31 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Farmer Dean

If we are going to be in a war, we should be in it to win it. That means smart strategy and tactics. What we did with the Koran was not smart. It has nothing to do with principle and high ideals. War is not about high ideals. It is about winning. If we don’t want to win then we should not be in the war in the first place.

8 posted on 02/25/2012 11:23:53 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: savagesusie

Uh. Wrong thread. I think.

Though there is a lot of pedophilia in Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the ME.

9 posted on 02/25/2012 11:25:01 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Marguerite

From Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction,” says Obama.

10 posted on 02/25/2012 11:33:39 AM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less."~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Jukeman

Obama’s behavior is absolutely shameful.

I mean, how could he have forgotten Afghanistan during his Apology Tour?...

11 posted on 02/25/2012 11:42:17 AM PST by mikrofon (Appallogist-in-Chief)
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To: Marguerite
This is the correct way to apologize.

12 posted on 02/25/2012 11:50:15 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools is hard work and there's no end to it.)
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To: spintreebob

In a war where one is Muslim and the other side is also Muslim, the Muslim side wins. We lose. Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Pakastan, etc etc will be loses as long as we think one side is our friend. Islam uses non-Muslims. Islam does not befriend non-Muslims.

13 posted on 02/25/2012 12:30:11 PM PST by OldArmy52 (Anything Obama says should be considered a lie.)
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To: Marguerite

If you napalmed a big nest of Taliban, would that count as burning korans?

14 posted on 02/25/2012 12:30:45 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips; but watch their hands!)
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To: Theo

The point is—they are a supremely evil culture—pedophilia is supremely evil which corrupts the future of the society.

We should NEVER even be supporting such evil, much less apologizing for anything. The whole culture needs eradicating.

15 posted on 02/25/2012 1:16:09 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Marguerite
All the presidential bowing in the world will not change this, not when Muslim supremacism is the irreducible core of mainstream Islam — not al-Qaeda Islam, mainstream Islam.

US Judge rules Muslims have a right to assault people who offend them

16 posted on 02/25/2012 2:11:09 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Marguerite

Why are we even there? The Afghans are primitive tribespeople who have been killing each other for hundreds of years, which is why pretending they have a “government” is ludicrous. A few bribed politicians in Kabul pretend they’re Afghanistan. The minute we leave they’ll be off to Switzerland with their stolen loot.

As for nation-building these Yahoos, look how well the worked in Iraq, which is now pals with Iran, selling their oil to China, and descending into civil war. And oh, they hate us. That was sure worth a trillion bucks and thousands of dead and injured troops.

I say allow the women to emigrate from mud-nation, and let the men go back to killing and buggering each other until no one is left. The only drawback is that would cut down on the opium supply for the CIA to use.

17 posted on 02/25/2012 6:01:42 PM PST by superstitionmountain (Did I mentio that I hate Chris Dodd, a rat among men.)
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To: Marguerite

It is totally wrong to burn the Koran when it serves as fine bumwipe if you’re short of Charmin ;’)

18 posted on 02/25/2012 6:03:07 PM PST by superstitionmountain (Did I mentio that I hate Chris Dodd, a rat among men.)
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To: savagesusie

Um, I’m not sure what this has to do with Afghanistan, but given that women in the primitive areas (most of the country) are covered head to toe, a lot of them could actually be men ;’)

Actually, it is Not a country. It is a bunch of tribal fiefdoms that were perfectly happy to be killing each other as they played football with donkey-heads, until we came along and pretended it was a country.

19 posted on 02/25/2012 6:09:13 PM PST by superstitionmountain (Did I mentio that I hate Chris Dodd, a rat among men.)
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To: mikrofon

US Military Burns Bibles but Condemns Burning Korans

Bible BurningIf reports are accurate, it looks like those who burned Korans that had been written in to deliver secret messages to other prisoners may have to stand trial. We’re not hearing anything about whether those who killed US troops over the affair will suffer a similar fate.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai had accused a United States officer of “ignorantly” burning copies of the Koran. As a result, rioters took to the streets. So far, 11 people, in addition to the two U.S. servicemen, have been killed.

Demonstrations have drawn thousands of angry Afghans to the streets, chanting “Death to America!”

“NATO officials, in response to a request for the trial and punishment of the perpetrators … promised this crime will brought to court as soon as possible,” Karzai’s office said in a statement.

President Barack Obama sent a letter to Karzai apologizing for the burning of the Korans, after Afghan laborers found charred copies while collecting rubbish at the Bagram Air Base.

I don’t know if the President has said anything about the deaths of two United States soldiers and he wants an apology from Afghan President Karzai. Apologies these days are mostly a one-way street. We’re doing all the apologizing.

Our government apologizes for burning a few Korans, and yet it burns thousands of Bibles at the same Bagram Air Force Base. Here’s a CNN story from 2009 that is not getting any media attention:

Military personnel threw away, and ultimately burned, confiscated Bibles that were printed in the two most common Afghan languages amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans, a Defense Department spokesman said. The unsolicited Bibles sent by a church in the United States were confiscated . . . at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan because military rules forbid troops of any religion from proselytizing while deployed there, Lt. Col. Mark Wright said. . . .

“The decision was made that it was a ‘force protection’ measure to throw them away, because, if they did get out, it could be perceived by Afghans that the U.S. government or the U.S. military was trying to convert Muslims,” Wright told CNN on Tuesday.

Troops at posts in war zones are required to burn their trash, Wright said.

According to the military, the Bibles were “trash.”

The one thing that would help the blood-crazed Middle East, military rules say it must be destroyed. Is it any wonder that we are not making any progress as the body counts continues to mount? God is not mocked. We are trying to win a war with bullets, missiles, and drones instead of God’s Word. What’s worse, shooting bullets or dropping Bibles all over the Middle East?

On May 28th, 1849, Robert C. Winthrop (1809–1894), descendant of Governor John Winthrop, first governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony, addressed the Annual Meeting of the Massachusetts Bible Society in Boston, and said in part, “Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled, either by a power within them, or by a power without them; either by the word of God, or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible, or by the bayonet.””;

20 posted on 02/26/2012 5:16:55 AM PST by KeyLargo
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