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Pakistani Taliban says it killed Chinese woman (payback for Chinese suppression of Muslim rebels)
Dawn.com ^ | March 1, 2012 | Dera Ismail Khan

Posted on 03/02/2012 9:58:17 AM PST by Zhang Fei

DERA ISMAIL KHAN: A spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban has claimed responsibility for killing a Chinese woman in the northwestern city of Peshawar.

Taliban spokesman Mohammad Afridi said on Thursday the woman was targeted to avenge what he said were atrocities carried out by Chinese security forces in the heavily Muslim northwestern region of Xinjiang.

(Excerpt) Read more at dawn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; pakistan
Chinese nationals on work assignments in Pakistan had previously been seized as bargaining chips and sometimes murdered, but this is the first time, to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, that linkage has been made between a seizure/murder and the Chinese suppression of Muslim rebels in Xinjiang/East Turkistan. It appears that the Chinese policy of supplying the Taliban with weaponry has not completely quieted Taliban qualms* about Chinese policies vis-a-vis internal rebels. This murder may also be a sign that China's policy in supporting Syria's Alawite government against Sunni Arab rebels is causing it to lose support among Sunnis (90% of all Muslims) worldwide.

* Which kind of makes sense, given the position of Muslims that any territory that was for a time ruled by Muslim should remain ruled by Muslims for the rest of time. The quirky aspect of Xinjiang/East Turkistan is that the region was populated by Muslims imported from Central Asia two centuries ago. Its prior inhabitants, the Dzungars - a Buddhist Mongol tribe - had been exterminated by the Chinese. In importing large numbers of Muslims to replace the Buddhist Dzungars, the Chinese arguably substituted the Ebola plague for the common cold. However, Chinese rulers - atheistic in practice (due to the twin influences of Legalism and Confucianism) long before this became fashionable in the West - have long subscribed to a view Keynes restated thus: "In the long run, we are all dead." Tactical considerations always overrode the long view.

1 posted on 03/02/2012 9:58:22 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

Why can there be such a thing as a Taliban spokesman, and why is he not shot in the head the very second he claims to be one?


2 posted on 03/02/2012 10:04:15 AM PST by cartan
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To: Zhang Fei

If this is true, the Chinese will seriously mess up the Taliban. There is no such thing as an ROE book with them.


3 posted on 03/02/2012 10:06:21 AM PST by InsidiousMongo
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To: cartan

The spokesman is in Pakistan. That should answer your question.


4 posted on 03/02/2012 10:06:59 AM PST by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Zhang Fei
What a big man killing a woman..This shows what pathetic savages these are..I hope Obama is proud of his chosen people...
5 posted on 03/02/2012 10:08:07 AM PST by PLD
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To: Zhang Fei
No Problem

Don`t get the Chinese Mad.

Let the Chinese invade Afghanistan after USA /NATO pulls out -

Watch what happens-

End of Story.

6 posted on 03/02/2012 10:08:48 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (CPA in Afghanistan???? - Who knew?)
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To: InsidiousMongo

There is no such thing as an ROE book with them.

Yep. I think the Taliban bit a little more off than they can chew. The Chinese leaders do NOT apologize! alla is going to have his hands full now. And, they are going to run out of virgins - ain’t that a witch.


7 posted on 03/02/2012 10:12:17 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Zhang Fei

How many Pakistani Taliban women have they killed?


8 posted on 03/02/2012 10:16:36 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Zhang Fei

That poor woman. Sickening...


9 posted on 03/02/2012 10:17:48 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Zhang Fei
There is something sad, yet refreshing in this. The islamofacisists are going to get what they deserve, just not from us. So the joy felt at seeing the Pakistani's getting their long overdue butt kicking will be tempered by watching the growth of a new Chinese empire.

Unlike the woosified, politically correct US, the Chinese still understand the value of delivering a good a$$ kicking. And the Islamist's standard method of fighting, which depends on having massive numerical superiority to make up for technical deficiency, isn't going to work against the Chinese. There are simply more of them then, well anybody else. And they have fairly good kit to boot. Not the best, but good enough to wipe the floor with the Taliban.

America's great weakness is that we are unable to take casualties. We have a low birth rate, and except for immigrants a declining and aging population. The Chinese have massive excess population. They could simply swamp Pakistan. And if it comes down to throwing nukes, the Chinese have more and better. Oh and unlike Obama they will use theirs.
10 posted on 03/02/2012 10:23:07 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Bitsy

One phrase comes to mind now..

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


11 posted on 03/02/2012 10:26:39 AM PST by InsidiousMongo
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To: UCANSEE2
How many Pakistani Taliban women have they killed?

The Sunni Muslim view is that all infidels are legitimate targets for attack, and that an attack on any Muslim (rebel or whatever) is reason enough for retaliatory attacks on all infidels* sharing the nationality of the attackers. This is how bin Laden and the Taliban justified the 9/11 attacks.

* In the long run, all infidels must be subjugated by the faithful, but immediate targets for Muslim activists would include infidels who are keeping Muslims under their thumb, i.e. countries in armed conflict with rebellious Muslim minorities.

12 posted on 03/02/2012 10:29:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Nothing will happen. The chicom leaders say they have over a half a billion more. They will send another one over, right away.


13 posted on 03/02/2012 10:30:40 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: All

I REALLY hope these apes pizz off the Chinese...I really, really do...


14 posted on 03/02/2012 10:33:20 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: InsidiousMongo
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Rule #29. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less.
15 posted on 03/02/2012 10:33:27 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Chinese practice is often an enigma to the West, but some things are certain.

The Chinese are intelligent, adaptable at an accelerating pace, and have repeatedly demonstrated willingness to exterminate a culture that is inconvenient to their overall plan.

I would bet on the modern Chinese over the Eight Century Muslims, they still have the will, and now the technology.

16 posted on 03/02/2012 10:34:23 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Zhang Fei

But if they really wanted to showcase their military prowess, possibly these heroes should have thrown in a few children and maybe a cripple or two for good measure.

Never mind; they’ll have plenty of time to review their omission while they’re rotting in hell.


17 posted on 03/02/2012 10:35:26 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: GonzoGOP
Unlike the woosified, politically correct US, the Chinese still understand the value of delivering a good a$$ kicking. And the Islamist's standard method of fighting, which depends on having massive numerical superiority to make up for technical deficiency, isn't going to work against the Chinese.

The Islamist's method of fighting is similar to the Viet Cong's: hide among non-fighters in the population, hit your enemy, and then go back to hiding among the "moderate" Muslim population. They want to be as hard to find, between raids, as the proverbial "needle in the haystack".

This only works up to the point where your opponent becomes willing to torch the haystack.

18 posted on 03/02/2012 11:04:43 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: GonzoGOP

Rule #29. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.


Nobody says we are friends forever. I hardly trust China anymore than I trust a pissed off badger poked at in a cage.


19 posted on 03/02/2012 11:10:40 AM PST by InsidiousMongo
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To: Zhang Fei; All
Having the Chinese fight the Muslims could be a good thing in the long run for the reasons others have stated.

The Chinese are willing to do “wet work” which we won't.

The Chinese, unlike the Russians, have virtually unlimited population and are capable of swamping an enemy nation, up to and possibly even including massive military assaults causing depopulation, followed by colonization. I'd much rather see Kabul and Islamabad become cities named “little Beijing” than see those cities continued to follow a radical Muslim agenda imported out of the tribal fanaticism of the Arabian peninsula from more than a millennium ago.

Granted, the Chinese are not believers in Western-style democracy or free-market capitalism. They are, however, people we can deal with in a manner comparable to, at worst, the old Soviet Union — they have long, medium and short-term goals and can be dealt with as people who have a game plan. The radicals who lead the Islamic world cannot be reasoned with — how can you deal with people who believe that if they lose, they get 72 virgins?

20 posted on 03/02/2012 1:21:23 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: cartan

“Why can there be such a thing as a Taliban spokesman, and why is he not shot in the head the very second he claims to be one?”

For the same reasons the Somali pirates have a spokesman.

We live in a very F*kd up world.

A thousand years from now, someone will ask the very same question as you.


21 posted on 03/03/2012 6:30:51 AM PST by Levante
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To: PapaBear3625

the Chinese have demonstrated they are pefectly willing to sacrifice the “innocent” to kill the guilty.

In other words, they blow the shit out of everyone. They don’t give a flying f**k about PC, or Western “sensibilities.”


22 posted on 03/03/2012 6:36:20 AM PST by Levante
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To: Levante
Then again, the Chinese may not care about a Chinese woman who was probably not a senior party member. They may judge that it is not yet the right time to open that can of whup-ass.

Over the long term, the Chinese are in trouble. Their "one-child" policy is going to leave them with a dangerously aging population. They could use an outlet for their excess males. In ancient times, the solution was to invade another country, kill the enemy's men, and take their women as sex slaves.

23 posted on 03/03/2012 8:55:28 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

Good points.

The Chinese ARE in trouble, as you stated. The question is, who will they invade? Pakistan? Vietnam? Taiwan? At this point, who can tell? And if they set their sights on a US ally, will our then-President have the courage to confront them?


24 posted on 03/03/2012 10:24:16 AM PST by Levante
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To: Levante
And if they set their sights on a US ally, will our then-President have the courage to confront them?

I think the real question is, "Would it be worth it for us to confront them?"

25 posted on 03/03/2012 10:29:46 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Vietnam and back-stabbing, duplicitous Pakistan? China can have them.

Taiwan? Japan? No way.


26 posted on 03/03/2012 10:39:42 AM PST by Levante
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To: Levante
The Chinese ARE in trouble, as you stated. The question is, who will they invade? Pakistan? Vietnam? Taiwan? At this point, who can tell?

If Russia gets into a cash crunch, the Chinese could offer to use their cash reserves to buy the resource-rich areas of Siberia.

They are less likely to invade India, a country with their own nukes. They might do something with Pakistan's northern tribal regions. They would most like to do something with Taiwan.

27 posted on 03/03/2012 10:43:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Levante

Japan definitely. Taiwan? I’m not confident we’d go to war to save them, unfortunately.


28 posted on 03/03/2012 11:20:31 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Levante
[…] back-stabbing, duplicitous Pakistan? China can have them.
Hmmm, now there is an idea—a little “Cultural Revolution” might be exactly what they need over there…
29 posted on 03/05/2012 3:06:39 AM PST by cartan
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To: bunkerhill7; Bitsy

China lost to Vietnam within 28 days, at least the US held out in Vietnam for decades. The Chinese are not known for their fighting skills, but they are smart enough to know not to walk into the Afghanistan mine field.


30 posted on 03/07/2012 1:46:57 PM PST by ravager
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To: InsidiousMongo

So which one is the enemy (or friend) here? China or Taliban?


31 posted on 03/07/2012 1:54:30 PM PST by ravager
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