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Hating Republicans In Southern California
Townhall.com ^ | March 3, 2012 | Brian Birdnow

Posted on 03/03/2012 5:59:02 AM PST by Kaslin

“We are not the same. I equate Republicans’ political views with thoughtlessness, intolerance and narcissism. They’re neither kind nor empathetic.” The preceding words are a direct quote, written by Diana Wagman, a novelist, in an Op-Ed piece she penned for the Los Angeles Times, on February 21, 2012. Ms. Wagman, who describes herself and her husband as, “…both bleeding heart liberals”, related her tale of an inadvertent discovery of the political views of the couple who own a vacation cabin across the street from the Wagman’s own spread, in the Sierra Nevada, just outside of Fresno, California. Ms. Wagman described her shock when, after an evening spent playing poker and sipping scotch, she found, to her horror, that the aforementioned couple across the street were conservative-Tea Partying Republicans. Your humble Townhall correspondent assumed that the rest of this piece would become a rather commonplace “can’t judge a book by its cover”, missive, but at that point it spun off in exactly the opposite direction.

Ms. Wagman informed her readers that her across-the-street acquaintances were the perfect neighbors. They were pleasant, helpful, and friendly. As Ms. Wagman put it, “They are a lovely family: husband, wife, and four smart, funny, polite children. I was sure they were Democrats.” They were also an interracial family, with an African-American mother and a White father.

The trouble began when the Wagmans invited their new friends in for a final drink after the annual Camp Sierra Association poker game. The friends announced that they were members of the Tea Party, and for good measure, they added that the Tea Party was not racist because, they, an interracial couple, had been eagerly welcomed and accepted by their Tea Party compatriots. In Wagman’s own words, “…I was shouting, his wife was trying to calm him down, my husband was trying to calm me down, and our other friends-all Democrats- were trying to keep everybody from breaking the furniture.”

Ms. Wagman goes on to describe the downward spiral of the evening. She states that they argued about healthcare, welfare, Obama’s religion and citizenship, and the war on terror. Things soon descended to name-calling; “He called me a spoiled idiot and worse. I called him selfish, shortsighted and worse. It was awful, and it went on until after 3 AM.”

It is sad when friends sometimes fall out over politics, but it does happen. Thomas Sowell may have been correct in the late 1980s when he argued that political bickering masked deep divisions of a cultural and sociological nature, and that these divisions could never really be bridged. Be that as it may, in this particular case apologies were proffered, but not really accepted. “The next morning, they knocked on our door and we apologized to each other and laughed sheepishly…But my feelings about them are changed. I cannot respect them as I did before…I don’t want to be friends with someone who is a member of the Tea Party, or is a Newt Gingrich Republican. We are not the same. I equate their political views with thoughtlessness, intolerance and narcissism. I think they are neither kind nor empathetic.”

Ms. Wagman goes on to express her wish for conservatives: “If only they would all go live in Gingrich’s moon colony.” She then rattles off a listing of her certified liberal views and argues that they “…seem so logical to me…these are no-brainers to me, and it kills me that my neighbor disagrees.” She idly wonders if any number of bitter misfortunes, such as having a son killed in Afghanistan, a daughter turning up pregnant, or a sister announcing that she was a lesbian would change her neighbor’s opinions. She finishes her article by stating, “Next time I drive to our cabin, I’m going to make sure I take everything I could possibly need. I don’t want to ask my neighbors for help. I hope it’s their weekend to stay home.”

Let us hope that Ms. Wagman is speaking for herself, and does not represent the views and attitudes of the modern American liberal. It seems quite bigoted, small-minded and petulant to argue that simply discovering that the neighbors are anti-Obama Tea Partiers precludes the possibility of friendship, or even cordiality between their respective families. This is pretty incendiary stuff. Whatever became of the Hubert Humphrey School of “Happy Warrior” type liberalism?

The material point in this column is quite simple. Diana Wagman is likely the type of liberal who bemoans the polarized nature of our politics, the divisive state of our culture, and the vanishing of civility from our public discourse. Yet, in her Op-Ed piece she freely admits that she is a liberal and that she essentially hates Republicans because they are conservatives. Certainly Ms. Wagman would argue that Rush Limbaugh should be censored, that Ann Coulter is a national disgrace, and that George W. Bush was the worst President in American history. She does not consider these views over the top. On the contrary “they seem so logical” to her. (Perhaps these attitudes represent the worldview of regular readers of the Los Angeles Times.) It goes without saying that she considers hating conservatives to be quite logical, too. If Ms. Wagman really wants to pin the “polarizing” and “divisive” tails on the political donkey she can start with herself.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: conservatives; liberals; politicalattack; teaparty
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To: jiggyboy
The Personalization Fallacy, a relative of the Authority Fallacy, is part of the bedrock of the liberal thought process.

It isn't just a fallacy; with them it's a political tool.

Gays are constantly trying to ambush conservatives by outing family members or close longtime associates -- they noticed that Barry Goldwater changed his views after he discovered that a family member was gay. They have ambushed Rep. Bob Dornan, the late Rev. Jerry Falwell (over whose sudden death, like Andrew Breitbart's, they gloated openly), Newt Gingrich and others in this way; and they entreated Mary Cheney to out herself publicly precisely in order to corner Dick Cheney and extort some sort of statement from him and wife Lynn that the GLPC/HRC/Homomiasma could use politically.

101 posted on 03/03/2012 10:43:53 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: The Working Man
The point I want to bring up is that nearly fifty years ago this man ....

Who was that?

102 posted on 03/03/2012 10:47:34 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Fred Hayek
he went off on a rant about George W Bush, and blurting “*bleeping* American bastards” during a meeting

You should have told him what Lee Iacocca said one time when he was firing an enfant terrible engineering manager at Chrysler. A defender said the guy was an engineering genius, he was just terrible with people. Retorted Iacocca, "Well, that's too bad, because that's all we've got around here."

103 posted on 03/03/2012 10:55:41 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: xcullen

Absolutely you were allowed to push back. Liberals have become too accustomed to having their say and keeping some people quiet in their fundamental disagreements by calling them “racists” or “ill informed” etc. etc. They don’t tend to take it well when we meet their rhetoric with fact..or their rabid dogma with firm convictions based on these truths..” all men are created equal and endowed by their creator ( not government) with certain unalienable ( this means that no one..no one can take them from us) Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”


104 posted on 03/03/2012 10:59:46 AM PST by dixiedarlindownsouth (When in the course of human events...)
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To: Taxman
Diana Wagman is the author of the novels “Skin Deep,” “Spontaneous” and “Bump.”

Ah, so she's a master of the form in autobiography, is she? And doing multiple books on the same subject, like _resident Barky. Wonderful.

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105 posted on 03/03/2012 11:01:15 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: spankalib

I laughed when she told me that. She didn’t take that well. O’well..:)


106 posted on 03/03/2012 11:04:08 AM PST by dixiedarlindownsouth (When in the course of human events...)
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To: lentulusgracchus

He was a science-fiction writer who wrote under the name of Philip H. High. As stories go they are very dated by today’s standards. But I really appreciate the way he saw society breaking down around him.

Amazon carries them in Kindle format. Invader on my Back and Butterfly planet are both good examples of the breakdown into these three factions.


107 posted on 03/03/2012 11:05:19 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: mrsmel
So much hypocrisy in this, from so many different angles-the living breathing personification of liberals who want to impose their “morality” on others but not live with the consequences themselves.

"The principle feature of American liberalism is sanctimoniousness. By loudly denouncing all bad things -- war and hunger and date rape -- liberals testify to their own terrific goodness.

More important, they promote themselves to membership in a self-selecting elite of those who care deeply about such things. It's a kind of natural aristocracy, and the wonderful thing about this aristocracy is that you don't have to be brave, smart, strong or even lucky to join it, you just have to be liberal.'

-- P. J. O'Rourke


108 posted on 03/03/2012 11:28:26 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Redleg Duke

Exactly.


109 posted on 03/03/2012 11:36:51 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.

by Charles Krauthammer


110 posted on 03/03/2012 11:42:17 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I have not read any of her books.

If I somehow came into possession (certainly not by purchase!) of one or more of them, I’d publicly burn them and hope that would incite a riot among her LIEberal womyn whacko FRiends!


111 posted on 03/03/2012 11:42:37 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

PS After all, her LIEberal womyn whacko FRiends are about as insane as the Afghanistanis who rioted!


112 posted on 03/03/2012 11:43:57 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

Thanks for your kind reply.
Perhaps I will give it a once-over and post it as its own thread.

FRegards,
LH


113 posted on 03/03/2012 11:58:28 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Nea Wood
Yet liberals are always spouting off their opinions in front of me, assuming I’ll agree.

I wish that would happen to me.

114 posted on 03/03/2012 12:00:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaslin

Scratch the surface of any liberal, and you will find a fascist.


115 posted on 03/03/2012 12:07:25 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Lancey Howard

I think you will be pleased at the FReeper response to it.


116 posted on 03/03/2012 12:09:40 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: GenXteacher
Clausewitz noted that war is politics carried on by other means. I hold that the reverse is also true.

You probably already know this being a teacher, but others don't. Policy Sci 101. The definition of politics is who gets what, when, and how. In other words. Politics is about power.

It's frankly time that conservatives and libertarians understand not just the what part, but the how part. It's not civil, except when civility is used as a tool.

117 posted on 03/03/2012 12:21:48 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The most vile racists known are democrats.

No surprise there.

The Democrat party was the Party of Slavery™ at its founding 200 years ago; it remains the Party of Slavery™ today.

118 posted on 03/03/2012 1:01:53 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I once ran across an expression to the effect of “Liberals form their facts based on feelings; conservatives form their feelings based on facts.”


119 posted on 03/03/2012 1:23:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Iron Munro

What a smarmy know-it-all smug smirk on her face. She dresses like a derelict. She has hair that is wild and out of control, kind of like her goofy brain, and its “form” defies any definition of style. I would be embarrassed to be seen with her anywhere in public.


120 posted on 03/03/2012 1:23:36 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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