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Gingrich: Limbaugh right to apologize for remarks (AP headline)
KGW - Portland ^ | March 4, 2012 | AP

Posted on 03/04/2012 6:25:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich says Rush Limbaugh was wrong to call a college student a "slut" and "prostitute" in the debate over contraception coverage, and was right to apologize for the comments.

Gingrich tells CNN's "State of the Union" that he's glad the conservative commentator issued the apology on Saturday and that it's time to move beyond the controversy.

Gingrich says it's "silly" to suggest that Limbaugh speaks for the GOP. Gingrich contends the media are "trying desperately to protect" President Barack Obama.


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To: American Constitutionalist

Actually the responses to the question tells more about the candidates then you care to admit.

Rick Santorum: Absurd

Newt Gingrich: Wrong, and then followed it up with: “The Republican Party has four people running for president, none of whom is Rush Limbaugh,” Gingrich said. “One of them will end up as the nominee, and that person will be the Republican spokesman. I don’t think any of them were involved in this controversy at all.”

Newt then went on to attack the media on their obvious bias.

I think the different answers show a lot about the character of the individual. You can take just the one word each used to describe the statements by Rush (Absurd vs Wrong) and go from there.

JB


51 posted on 03/04/2012 7:01:10 AM PST by thatjoeguy (MAYDAY! MAYDAY! We are so going in ! !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am not all over the map at all, not on ideas and philosophy. Now, if that makes me all over the map about other people - who may be all over the map, so be it.

I have a different view than most Freepers I suppose. Supporting someone in my book INCLUDES SMACKING THEM DOWN WHEN THEY SCREW UP. That’s part of it. I will be no one’s sycophant. I refuse. I am a Duke fan so this morning I admit they were awful last night! That’s what a real supporter does IMO.

Yes, I realize that counters many prevailing winds here on FR. But you will never find my philosophy in one post at odds with my philosophy in another post.

Now, besides which, I answered your question in 2 other posts. I pointed out which quotes of Newts were brilliant and which ones he should have left unsaid. I think I was very clear and very specific and very correct on those points.

And I was totally consistent in those opinions with everything else I have ever said here on FR.


52 posted on 03/04/2012 7:01:49 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Um, we’re not consumed with Rush Limbaugh

Of course we are. There are at least thirty separate threads on Rush Limbaugh, his advertisers, his apology....and he's discussed on at least thirty more.

If this is truly the most important election of our lifetime, then we need to pull it together and fast.

We don't need to obsess over and debate repeatedly every shiny object the liberals throw into the room to distract from the real issues: obamacare, the economy and national defense.

53 posted on 03/04/2012 7:02:13 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: StraightDave

Far as I’m concerned, Rush’s record is intact.
When a “student” is pressed financially cause her birth control needs are too costly, she’s a slut.
When our pres__ent consoles a slut, he’s a slut.
But we all knew that didn’t we?


54 posted on 03/04/2012 7:04:25 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Daveinyork
Gingrich is a loose cannon.

Yep he is. And you need loose cannons to win wars. We are at war. We won't win it with Rickie Squirt gun or Mitt "ready, aim, AIM BUT NEVER ACTUALLY FIRE!" Romney.

We need someone who will fire and fire and fire. And yes, there will be collateral damage from time to time. Welcome to war. But with Newt, there will be many many many more direct hits on the target than with anyone else running. And even in this situation, he scored several direct hits.

Be careful with your cliches. They might come back to bite you.

55 posted on 03/04/2012 7:05:44 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I just think it’s pretty hypocritical of you to stop by a thread that is obviously about Rush and then pretend you are our superior since you and only you realize that there are more important issues. Kind of makes me queasy.

And like I said, many of us can walk and chew gum at the same time. Did you get that analogy?


56 posted on 03/04/2012 7:07:34 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Right_in_Virginia

....and I’ll add this while I’m thinking about it. This is not actually about Rush, this is about capitulation to the liberal media and political correctness. This is actually a HUGE FRICKN issue and only happens to involve Rush in this particular instance.

But yes, caving to political correctness is one of the biggest issues we face today, now that you mention it.


57 posted on 03/04/2012 7:09:11 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Common Sense 101
.......how is it that virtually no one is speaking about the real issue... this skank’s obvious attempt to forward the skid mark's unconstitutional edict that the Catholic Church pay for her contraceptives has been twisted and perverted into this idiotic “Republicans want to end women's right to contraceptives”?....

Transcript of Feb 22, 2012 CNN Republican Debate in Arizona

The LIE:

....."ROMNEY: No, absolutely not. Of course not.

There was no requirement in Massachusetts for the Catholic Church to provide morning-after pills to rape victims. That was entirely voluntary on their report. There was no such requirement.

Likewise, in Massachusetts health care bill, there's a provision in Massachusetts general laws that says people don't have to have coverage for contraceptives or other type of medical devices which are contrary to their religious teachings. Churches also don't have to provide that to entities which are either the church themselves or entities they control. So we have provisions that make sure that something of that nature does not occur.

That's why when I worked closely with the leaders of the Catholic Church, I met with the cardinal a number of times, and with his emissaries. We talked about the issues we were concerned about.

We battled, for instance, to help the Catholic Church stay in the adoption business. The amazing thing was that while the Catholic Church was responsible for half the adoptions in my state -- half the adoptions -- they had to get out of that business because the legislature wouldn't support me and give them an exemption from having to place children in homes where there was a mom and a dad on a preferential basis.

Absolutely extraordinary. We have to have individuals that will stand up for religious conscience, and I did and I will again as president.".....

The FACTS:

"...GINGRICH: Well, the reports we got were quite clear that the public health department was prepared to give a waiver to Catholic hospitals about a morning-after abortion pill, and that the governor's office issued explicit instructions saying that they believed it wasn't possible under Massachusetts law to give them that waiver. Now, that was the newspaper reports that came out. That's something that both Senator Santorum and I have raised before. But I want to go a step further, because this makes a point that Ron Paul has been making for a generation and that people need to take very seriously.

When you have government as the central provider of services, you inevitably move towards tyranny, because the government has the power of force.

(APPLAUSE)

You inevitably -- and I think this is true whether it's Romneycare or Obamacare or any other government centralized system -- you inevitably move towards the coercion of the state and the state saying, "If you don't do what we, the politicians, have defined, you will be punished either financially or you will be punished in some other way like going to jail."

And that's why we are, I think, at an enormous crossroads in this country. And I think the fact is, for almost all of us who have been at this for any length of time, we're now looking at an abyss that forces you to change what you may once have thought -- and I suspect all four of us are much more worried today about the power of the state than we would have been -- with the possible exception of Congressman Paul -- than we would have been at any point in the last 25 years.".....

AND the TOP HEADLINE out of the Mesa Debate:

...."GINGRICH: But I just want to point out, you did not once in the 2008 campaign, not once did anybody in the elite media ask why Barack Obama voted in favor of legalizing infanticide. OK? So let's be clear here.

(APPLAUSE)

GINGRICH: If we're going to have a debate about who the extremist is on these issues, it is President Obama who, as a state senator, voted to protect doctors who killed babies who survived the abortion. It is not the Republicans."...

58 posted on 03/04/2012 7:09:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Kind of makes me queasy.

If THIS makes you queasy, I fear for your gastrointestinal system come the general election.

Good luck!

59 posted on 03/04/2012 7:10:27 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Kind of makes me queasy.

If THIS makes you queasy, I fear for your gastrointestinal system come the general election.

Good luck!

60 posted on 03/04/2012 7:12:49 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Wow, now you demonstrate the ability to totally miss the point as well. But yes, when those on our side miss the point that a reasonably intelligent person can readily see - are obtuse - and are self righteous at the same time, it is annoying.


61 posted on 03/04/2012 7:13:12 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I am not all over the map at all, not on ideas and philosophy.

You cannot quote what was said YET you have flown to the conclusion that the AP headline is your talking point.

I would not have you deliver messages to the front in times of war, nor would I want you beside me in a fox hole.

62 posted on 03/04/2012 7:13:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Right_in_Virginia

....and I’ll add this while I’m thinking about it. This is not actually about Rush, this is about capitulation to the liberal media and political correctness. This is actually a HUGE FRICKN issue and only happens to involve Rush in this particular instance.

But yes, caving to political correctness is one of the biggest issues we face today, now that you mention it.


63 posted on 03/04/2012 7:13:32 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Gingrich said the GOP would not be harmed by the controversy surrounding radio commentator Rush Limbaugh, who this week used incendiary language to describe a law student after she testified in a Congressional hearing over contraception coverage.

If, after saying something like the above, they published the few sentences that gave rise to their depiction of them as "incendiary," most people would say, "Huh? That's all he said? What's going on that certain people have become so emotionally deranged over it?"
What does it say about the college co-ed Sandra Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex, what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She's having so much sex she can't afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We're the pimps. (interruption [from Bo Snerdly]) The johns? We would be the johns? No! We're not the johns. (interruption [from Bo Snerdly]) Yeah, that's right. Pimp's not the right word. Okay, so she's not a slut. She's "round heeled." I take it back."
What's going on is that in one short segment he ridiculed the left's two main sacraments of life: 1. Screwing whomever, wherever, whenever, for whatever reason (as long as conception is prevented or at least ended by abortion), and not being called to task about any of it because it's their right, and 2. Making someone else pay for whatever they have declared to be their right.
64 posted on 03/04/2012 7:14:36 AM PST by aruanan
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To: C. Edmund Wright

LOL :^D

Thanks for the chuckle. Appreciate it.


65 posted on 03/04/2012 7:15:15 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: mnehring

This will not go away for some time or ever. It is part of The Harbinger.


66 posted on 03/04/2012 7:16:26 AM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Don’t you get it? The headline quotes will be all 95% of folks will EVER SEE!

You should know this. Newt should know this. His advisors should know this. And your fox hole comment is not a good analogy. In a fox hole, it’s all about protecting your buddy whether he (she) is right or wrong or not.

FR is not a fox hole. I am not in a fox hole. My support for Newt, or whoever, is shallow and meaningless if I ignore it when Newt himself violates my principles. I still support him. His statement is much better than Ricks, but his HEADLINES ARE ALMOST AS STINKY AS RICKS - and that is my point.

That is my ONLY point.


67 posted on 03/04/2012 7:16:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; American Constitutionalist
Agree..since when do Freepers eat their own—,p>I'm of the opinion there are several "FReepers" who come here to do just that, or at least exist here just to stir the pot and incite division.
68 posted on 03/04/2012 7:16:52 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another week gone, another round of Sunday morning talk shows spent answering questions like “Are Republicans declaring war on women?” and “Does Rush Limbaugh speak for the Republican Party?” instead of Obama’s crappy record, the terrible economy, the huge federal deficit and debt problems, Iran getting nukes, etc.

It’s bad enough that the Republican candidates even appear on these Democrat-run round-table shows every week, but by letting liberal hacks like Stephanapolus and Gregory set the agenda they fall further into the trap of the left to keep the focus away from where it belongs: on Obama and his horrible record.


69 posted on 03/04/2012 7:20:24 AM PST by AC86UT89 (America will endure until its government discovers that it can bribe the public with its own money.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Loose cannons also fire at friends.


70 posted on 03/04/2012 7:20:38 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

If you don’t understand the concept of collateral damage, I cannot help you grow up enough to do so.

If you cannot understand that we are at war, and will take casualties, some from friendly fire, then again, I cannot help you with that.

You must decide to accept reality or not.


71 posted on 03/04/2012 7:22:06 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If your snide remark implies that I’n a Romney (or a Paul) supporter, you are sadly mistaken. It seems that Newt has onece again shaken hands with the liberal enemies, and fired his loose cannon at a friend.


72 posted on 03/04/2012 7:23:20 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I accept reality. Do you accept the Constitution?


73 posted on 03/04/2012 7:24:40 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I will also add this. Your efforts to flesh out what was said and to point out that Newt’s statement on this was far stronger than Rick’s is important and I appreciate it.

Your efforts to pull the great quotes and make them available is much appreciated. And you are right.

But that does not make my point invalid. We are both right. What Newt said, in context, is rather different from what Rick said. You are right.

What Newt’s headlines will be, sadly, are rather similar to the headlines Rick generated. I am right too. Your point and my point are different, but they are not mutually exclusive.


74 posted on 03/04/2012 7:25:08 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: SunkenCiv; Cincinatus' Wife; mnehring
What "college student"?

Prostitute:

2. One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

Now you could argue there was no immediate financial gain. But her intent is clear.

Rush shouldn't apologize. Especially to a feminazi.

75 posted on 03/04/2012 7:25:47 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: C. Edmund Wright

True friendly fire is accidental. When the friendly fire is deliberate, then the firer is an enemy.


76 posted on 03/04/2012 7:26:30 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

Uh, huh?

Do you like the color purple? Do you play golf?

That question was so off subject and dripping with ignorant self righteousness that we are done. You just took non sequitor to the next level.


77 posted on 03/04/2012 7:27:10 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You’ve joined with the MSM with your attack on Newt.

Such self-agrandizing with your self inflated “fairness!”

What? Newt should sit silent trough an interview?

They ALWAYS twist the facts and edit quotes and mischaracterize the entire story to turn the cannons back on the Right.

They don’t need your help.


78 posted on 03/04/2012 7:28:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: C. Edmund Wright

So was yours. Is Limbaugh collateral damage?


79 posted on 03/04/2012 7:29:44 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

FAIRNESS: never used the word. Never used the word. Never used the word.

Actually, you must not be reading my responses to you. I have not ATTACKED Newt at all.

I have said, that as a supporter of his, I think he missed a chance to really separate himself from Rick. That is all I have said. Every single comment I have made - EVERY SINGLE ONE - has been through that prism.

I have never said that Newt should sit silent. I have mentioned that two or three of his sound bytes were brilliant. I have only said that I wish he had not said the “he was right to apologize” statement and the “silly” line was not helpful either. Those are the headline statements and those sound like Rick’s “absurd” headline statement.

I debate politics in non election years as well. I was on FR before the 2012 cycle and plan to be on it after as well. I can hardly wait until we put down our obsession with people and get back to ideas. The tone of debate on FR changes radically once the focus turns to people, as it has since about fall of 2011.

I don’t worship Newt. I like the idea of him getting the nominee and then his ideas overwhelming the ideas of Obama for the entire nation to see. Then I like the idea of his ideas being implemented into law.

With me, it’s about the IDEAS. Always has been. Not about FAIRNESS. Not sure I have ever used that word in 5 thousand posts to FR - until now.


80 posted on 03/04/2012 7:34:44 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Your points well taken.


81 posted on 03/04/2012 7:34:52 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: Pinkbell

“Where are the Newt fans/Rick haters? Rick called the comments “absurd” and was attacked on here because he didn’t support Rush’s comments. People even made comments he wasn’t tough enough to be President. Now Newt says that Rush is right to apologize, therefore also publically disagreeing with the comments, and we’ll likely not hear a peep.”

Calling his comments absurd (piling on) is the same as Newt saying that it was right for him to apologize after he did it?

Ok, Santos, whatever makes that high-horse you sit on more comfortable.


82 posted on 03/04/2012 7:35:33 AM PST by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes I remember this, but that was February 22nd and may just as well of been a century ago... everyone now is talking about Rush’s gutless apology to the lying liberal “activist” posing as a lowly student and how mean the Republicans are for hating women.


83 posted on 03/04/2012 7:35:40 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Daveinyork

I want to see how Limbaugh plays his apology Monday before I pass judgment on it. For the weekend cycle, his apology is collateral damage yes — but I am not sure we have heard the end of this from Rush.

His apology was not at all like Imus’ apology. And he is much smarter than Imus. Thus this story is not over yet and could still head in any number of directions.


84 posted on 03/04/2012 7:36:54 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Common Sense 101

You make good points, today most of the conservatives are straightening it out..except for Noonan, who carries the banner for the lefties. Yeesh.


85 posted on 03/04/2012 7:37:00 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: mnehring
He said he was sorry for his poor word selection. So liberal lying ho would have been OK.
86 posted on 03/04/2012 7:38:04 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rush was using the “absurd” to make a point. He always does that. This is an election year. That is the difference.

This woman may, or may not, be a slut. But she is a political whore. That should be the focus now.

Birth Control pills can’t fix that.

In this case, Santorum was right. Just the way it is.


87 posted on 03/04/2012 7:38:26 AM PST by dforest
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yeah, you said it well....I would think I was on dummies websites...its one thing to argue or call someone on something..but to take on our people in a dumb slam.


88 posted on 03/04/2012 7:39:13 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

More proof of the old adage, “Never wrestle with a slut-prostitute-skank. You’ll get dirty and the slut-prostitute-skank enjoys it.”


89 posted on 03/04/2012 7:39:31 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: Pinkbell

Santorum had the perfect answer to this. Facts are hard things.


90 posted on 03/04/2012 7:41:01 AM PST by dforest
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To: Pinkbell

Peep.


91 posted on 03/04/2012 7:41:03 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: bossmechanic

Rush should probably watch out for the pot calling the kettle black himself. I think he’s on wife # 4 right now, isn’t he?

But aside from that, this is a stupid non-issue and I think Rush played right into Dem hands. We have to remember he’s an entertainer and not a political leader.


92 posted on 03/04/2012 7:42:08 AM PST by livius
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To: Happy Rain

“Yeah, Newt should have stayed out of it or made it a free political speech issue—now he has thrown Rush under the bus and there are a LOT of Dittoheads in Super Tuesday states.”

He didnt throw Rush under a bus!

Rush had already apologized, and Newt said that was the right thing for him to do.

He didnt tell Rush his comments were “absurd” in some weak attempt to try to distance himself from him like that other guy running did.

In each instance Newt was asked about this, he correctly directed to issue back to Obama and the media, while Santorum slap Rush early and then ran off.


93 posted on 03/04/2012 7:42:16 AM PST by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: bossmechanic

Rush should probably watch out for the pot calling the kettle black himself. I think he’s on wife # 4 right now, isn’t he?

But aside from that, this is a stupid non-issue and I think Rush played right into Dem hands. We have to remember he’s an entertainer and not a political leader.


94 posted on 03/04/2012 7:42:23 AM PST by livius
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To: Toespi

Rush himself, says he uses the absurd to make a point.

Rush does not say he apologizes to make a point. LOL

Santorum understood, Newt was, as usual, being Newt.


95 posted on 03/04/2012 7:43:28 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

“Rush himself, says he uses the absurd to make a point.

Rush does not say he apologizes to make a point. LOL

Santorum understood, Newt was, as usual, being Newt.”

Reeeeealy?

He said his comments were absurd. He wasn’t making some clever comment using Rush’s inside language about illustrating absurdity by being absurd.

No one outside of regular listeners would even know this phrase exist.


96 posted on 03/04/2012 7:47:24 AM PST by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: bossmechanic

I saw Newt on Meet the Press—within the hour—and he ate David “What’shisname” lunch!


97 posted on 03/04/2012 7:47:49 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Ping.


98 posted on 03/04/2012 7:48:35 AM PST by corlorde (Drone strikes: the preferred method of killing by Nobel peace prize winners since 2009)
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To: VanDeKoik

The reason Newt is where he is, is because people know Newt will say anything that he thinks benefits Newt. LOL


99 posted on 03/04/2012 7:50:37 AM PST by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ahh the great GOP, spineless, gutless wonders throwing Rush under the bus. The likes of Gingrich, Santorum & Romney, et al. show their true leadership capabilities. Maybe its because neither ever served in the military where you learn what LOYALTY is. You can bet that whoever gets the nomination will be just as timid in attacking the “messiah” for fear of being called a racist.


100 posted on 03/04/2012 7:55:42 AM PST by kenmcg (How)
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