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More natural gas vehicles hitting the market
Fuel Fix ^ | March 7, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/07/2012 5:42:45 AM PST by thackney

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To: thackney
Yes, it all goes back to flash-point, that is what I said. You can have duel fuel, but it is not efficient, but you need to maintain close flash points.
81 posted on 03/08/2012 12:46:03 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat; Jack of all Trades
Yes, it all goes back to flash-point, that is what I said.

You should go back and read your own words.

Post #64

Cannot, unless you have a way to lower the compression ratio.

(posted in reply to #62) Hogwash, you absolutely can run CNG or propane in a diesel engine with a properly engineered system. I was doing it ten years ago. Dual fuel, diesel/CNG or propane systems are a viable reality that save money.

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The compression ratio in these machines are not changed. Some can switch the fuel without stopping the engine.

82 posted on 03/08/2012 12:55:56 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: org.whodat

Modern diesel engines are mostly all going to high pressure common rail systems. Injection pressures are in the range of 14,000 to almost 30,000 psi.

Anyway, in a dual fuel application, you basically cut the diesel quantity back to about 10% and add the remaining 90% of the desired fuel with gas. The diesel is required to control the ignition timing. It works very well.


83 posted on 03/08/2012 12:56:28 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: org.whodat; thackney
Still boiling water.

A jet engine is a form of turbine engine.

A turbine works by having high-pressure gas passing through turbine blades, causing the blades to rotate the shaft and producing power. The high-pressure gas can be steam from a boiler, or it can come from direct combustion.

In the diagram thackney posted at #70, you have two generation stages. The upper generator is run by the gas turbine (essentially a stationary jet engine with the shaft connected to the generator). The upper stage does not use water. To get maximum efficiency, the hot exhaust from the top stage is used to boil water which goes to the smaller steam turbine in the lower half of the diagram. You don't need the second stage if you prefer compactness over fuel efficiency.

84 posted on 03/08/2012 1:02:10 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Jack of all Trades

LOL


85 posted on 03/08/2012 1:06:20 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: thackney
That’s because California Yellow Cab of Orange County has become the state’s first taxi company to put CNG-fueled Ford Transit Connect vans into service. California Yellow Cab says ten (and soon more than 120) natural gas Connects are on the roads and ready to pick up passengers in the Greater Los Angeles Area.

They are the same people who behind closed doors with lobbied/bribed against electric trains going to the airport, LAX. In fact, the lines run for many miles and stop short of the airport terminal by about 1 mile.

86 posted on 03/08/2012 1:15:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: org.whodat
Speaking from the standpoint of having actually done it, yeah, LOL.
87 posted on 03/08/2012 1:21:45 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: thackney

Your wasting your time. Maybe you already know that.


88 posted on 03/08/2012 1:22:29 PM PST by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: PapaBear3625

Did any body say a jet engine and a turbine engine were not similar, if they did I missed that, a ramjet is also similar. They tried to make turbine motors for trucks years ago, they never could get a handle on the heat.


89 posted on 03/08/2012 1:26:48 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Free_in_Alabama

Some individuals refuse to learn. But their impact on others at Free Republic can be reduced.

I value the worth of the postings at Free Republic.


90 posted on 03/08/2012 1:35:40 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: org.whodat
The M1 Abrams tank uses a turbine engine. No steam involved.


91 posted on 03/08/2012 3:40:33 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: thackney

You have more patience than most. I admire your dedication.


92 posted on 03/08/2012 5:35:20 PM PST by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: PapaBear3625

No kidding and what school kid does not know that. Do you specialize in trivial.


93 posted on 03/08/2012 7:36:36 PM PST by org.whodat
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