Skip to comments.Fact Checker: Ron Paul’s misleading ad: Rick Santorum is ‘fake’ fiscal conservative
Posted on 03/08/2012 11:13:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Santorum has arguably claimed the mantle of GOP front-runner by virtue of winning the most primaries and polling at or near the front of the pack in Michigan and Arizona, where the next contests take place. So his rivals are taking aim at his record, mainly by attacking his fiscal policies.
Ron Paul has gone perhaps furthest in this regard with his latest ad, which suggests the former senator supports ruthless dictators and abortion services. The video only mentions spending, but its actually a two- or maybe three-for-one for all intents and purposes, since it questions the candidates social and foreign policy values.
We looked at Santorums record to find out whether Pauls video misleads voters. (Note: Paul was asked to defend this ad in the CNN Debate on Wednesday night and he gleefully repeated the claim that Santorum is a fake.)
The Paul campaign provided a list of five bills dedicating money to Egypt and North Korea in one case, just Egypt. Each measure passed at least one chamber of Congress with a yes vote from Santorum.
A 2010 report from the Congressional Research Service notes that Congress appropriated an average of $2 billion a year in foreign assistance to Egypt since 1979 more than any country except Israel. Thats no surprise considering that Egypt became one of the strongest Middle East allies for the U.S. around that time, when it signed the Camp David peace accords with the Jewish state.
ProPublica provided a good summary of the funding relationship early last year. The gist is that U.S. officials considered Egypt funding vital to its military interests for example, allowing U.S. Navy ships to enjoy expedited processing through the Suez Canal and to maintaining a semblance of peace in the Israel-Palestine conflict.
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BTW, I have yet to see a Ron Paul ad attacking Mitt Romney.
For reference, and to look at Santorum’s OVERALL Congressional and Senate fiscal record, see here:
TITLE: Was Santorum a Senate Spendthrift?
Could it be that Ron Paul is a fiscal fetisher?..
I've never seen Ron Paul say anything that even dissagrees with Romney. I've never seen him say anything negative about Obama.
Ron Paul only attacks conservatives. He spends millions of dollars on advertisements attacking them.
If you want to know whether someone is a true conservative or a fake conservative it is easy. If Ron Paul attacks them they are true conservatives. If Ron Paul doesn't attack them then they are fake conservatives.
It is as simple as that.
Did Ron Paul write that add between writing anti-Sematic screeds?
I would really love to know who is funding R.Paul.
There is no way that college kids have enough change from their couches to support him, especially after they get their tokes for the weekend.
Lawyer Rickey is a go along to get along kinda guy and is only campaigning to be VP on a Romney ticket anyway.
He's the traditional "ticket balancer" sort the Vichy Republican party likes because on the off chance he should become President due to something happening to their Vichy Republican choice, Bishop Romney, Lawyer Ricky is very easy to control. The Vichy Republicans want to be strong enough to get a share of the graft and the trappings of power, they have no intention of keeping the democrat fascist party from actually running the country.
That's why with the exception of the few years when Newt was leading the charge the Vichy Republicans have been the permanent minority in Congress. It's also why they all got on board with railroading Newt out of his Speakership. Newt is a threat to the Vichy view of the world.
Newt or neutered, that's the choice in 2012
Many FReepers have been saying that the reason why Ron Paul NEVER attacks Romney, even as they observe that he has been attacking other Candidates as far back as when Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann were still in the running, is because he and Romney have an agreement.
The agreement is for Romney to choose Ron Paul’s son — Senator Rand Paul to be his running mate.
Romney and Ron Paul have formed an alliance. I sure wish Newt and Rick would.
Ron Paul is a fake conservative, who packs bills with pork, then votes against them when he knows they will pass, and then says he never voted for an earmark - PHONY Ron Paul!
Ron Paul twice voted NO! on protecting gun manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits. Ron Paul voted with Pelosi, et al. If they had their way, we might not have any gun manufacturers in the U.S. today.
ALSO, Ron Paul is not as pro-life as he would have you believe:
“Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Rated 56% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)”
Why is Ron Paul against a parent deciding what’s right for their minor child?
as of today there are only 50 delegates separating newt and bush III....... winning a bunch of low population states does not fill the coffers... this thing is just getting warmed up, and bush III has just about peaked..
I'm in the age group that won't be around singing in a high-pitched, post-neuter, voice once the fascist takeover is complete and choking the Lawyer Rickey fans on their own sarcasm and errors.
I worry about my children and grand children, but not so much for myself. My whole life has been gravy since 1970 anyway. If the positive hogwash blind supporters of Lawyer Rickey should put him on the ticket they'll rue the day they ever heard of him as a Presidential candidate, that's for sure. If he were even capable of winning against Barry he couldn't do anything more as President than he did in office, go along to get along like always has in the past.
It actually pains me to say that about a fellow Catholic, but the facts are what they are. Lawyer Rickey is an example of , "be careful what your pray for". If his supporters get what they want, they won't want it about a month after he takes the oath. Those who can't tell that from his voting record need to admit they're Vichy Republicans content to let the fascist rule as long as the Vichy get a share of the graft.
“Santorum winning the most primaries”
From what I can count, it’s 7-3, Romney’s favor as of 3/8. (No, I’, NOT a Romney supporter. Just doing the math):
Isn’t Paul the only GOP candidate who hasn’t released his income tax documents?
Wrong Paul is a liar?
Say it isn’t so.
The guy who is a Libertarian, not conservative, blame America truther who hates Jews is a liar?
“I would really love to know who is funding R.Paul.”
Click on this video and you’ll see who is funding Paultard.
Definitely a bookmark for when I get home.
The Washington Compost misleads by defending Santorum’s interventionism while ignoring Santorum’s votes to raise the debt ceiling 5 times, double the size of the Department of Education, and support a $727 billion entitlement expansion.
Paul’s fiscal fetish is the only thing I find attractive about him.
We only need to ask Santorum about his record. He cut a TV ad expressing his moderate pride for having proposed and voted for $550 million additional fundings for Amtrak overtop of a $900 million budget. He claimed it put him at odds with the Bush White House on spending.
Think about that: Santorum ran to the LEFT of Bush on Obama-style Big Rail spending. Is that a fiscal conservative?
Was his Medicare Part D vote fiscal conservatism?
Ron Paul is nuts but he's right to call out the senator on his record.
Take his budget-busting votes, add his YES confirmation for Clinton 2nd Circuit nominee Sonya Sotomayer, Obama's first choice for the Supreme Court--where John McCain voted NO--and you have to ask: what is Rick Santorum REALLY about when you pull back the social conservative message?
I have seen Paul bash Gingrich and Santorum both in debates and tv. Never Romney....ever. I don’t understand that. I mean I understand he desire to have his son as VP, but if he really is a libertarian as he says, Romney is not someone you want for a libertarian. I actually thing Gingrich has some libertarian in him more than Romney. Wacko Paul needs to go. He is just a pain in the a$$.
this thing is just getting warmed up, and bush III has just about peaked..
Bush III you say? No way. Bush was not nearly as principled as Santorum. Santorum is going to work hard to get rid of abortion. Did Bush do that? No. If Santorum gets rid of abortion, he will go down as the number one President in history!
I have seen Ron Paul go after Michelle Bachmann with vicious attacks. I have seen him team up with Romney to go after Santorum. I have seen him attack Newt.
I have never heard him criticize Obama or Romney.
Santorum is not promising to get rid of abortion. I’m not saying that he won’t do that, I’m just saying that abortion is not what he is running on. He cannot do anything unless he gets elected and he is not making promises that he cannot keep.
Ron Paul is nothing but a stalking horse for Romney. Romney is much more of a statist than Santorum, yet Ron Paul supports him. Ron Paul would rather see Obamneycare on the state level than tolerate a Catholic in the White House.
If Romney gets the nomination, I predict that Obama will immediately back off the federal insurance mandate and call for states to enact their own individual mandates, following the Obamacare guidelines.
Texas has 149 billion in Manufacturing output, Pennsylvania has 66b, Georgia 42b.
I didn't know that we had people here that were anti-Right to Work.
I am a Texan and have always despised unions, and have always considered their members as weak, and sort of corrupt and socialist.
I didn’t know that we had people here that were anti-Right to Work.
I am not anti-right to work, but I don’t think it is a good idea for a Senator to go against the wishes of his electorate. That is just plain realistic. I never even knew about this right to work stuff until this year. It is not like people were anti-unions in the 2000’s. I never heard a thing and that includes Free Republic. This is a new group that is not liked.
He sure has a way of privately fighting that public desire, in the 1996 Presidential primary he was supporting the candidate that was running to drive the pro-life movement out of politics, and remove the plank from the GOP platform, and make the Republican party pro-abortion, just like Santorum had been his entire life before he changed to run for office.
In 2008 Santorum was supporting the most pro-abortion primary candidate since 1996.
Conservatives despise unions, Southerners despise unions, Texas despise unions, and they all always have, including in the 2000s.
The left has always pushed unions and one of the most destructive things that JFK and the Democrat party ever did, was to create unions in government during the 1960s and 1970s, even FDR knew that was insane.
And that FRiend is why I am on Free Republic. To learn what I should have learned in school but didn’t. I am glad to be here and learn the right way to do things. I have already learned a ton here, but still learning everyday.
On a lighter note.
I should add that just as you are surprised to be learning some of this, I was amazed during the 1960s when I started drifting North, and found out about the union stranglehold over the freedom to work.
I had never seen or imagined that kind of group think, and voluntary slavery on the part of grown men. As a very independent Texan I found it very discouraging, unmanly and it did not help my image of “yankees” (I would say “damnyankees”, but by my late teens I had traveled enough to learn that those are actually two separate words).
That map is awful and I mean that because it looks like an electoral map where the Republicans win the “blue states” and the Democrats win the “yellow states”. Being from Pennsylvania screwed up my thinking in some says. Joining the military helped some, but joining Free Republic has had the most dramatic change albeit 6 years and still trying to get it right.
Interesting isn’t it that the right to work states are doing much better in Obama’s recession than the forced union states, but Santorum still wants union control over workers.
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