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Missouri House advances firearm discrimination measure
columbiamissourian.com ^ | 8 March, 2012 | AP

Posted on 03/09/2012 7:08:32 AM PST by marktwain

JEFFERSON CITY — The Missouri House has advanced legislation making it illegal for employers to discriminate against current or prospective workers because they own or use guns.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; discrimination; mo
If we create enough protected classes, perhaps we can return to limited government and freedom of association.
1 posted on 03/09/2012 7:08:37 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Holder said yesterday to CSPAN Congressional Justice Budget Committee Hearing that he wants to restrict the Second Amendment.


2 posted on 03/09/2012 7:15:18 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Holder holding 2nd?? ?? Who knew?)
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To: bunkerhill7
The Missouri House has advanced legislation making it illegal for employers to discriminate against current or prospective workers because they own or use guns.

I disagree with this. People who own and know how to use their weapons should definitely be given preferences. /sarc
3 posted on 03/09/2012 7:18:40 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: marktwain
What's happening is that companies are increasingly doing background checks on prospective employees. Your having a CCW license will turn up in the background check.

I could see, as a privacy issue, forbidding CCW from being included in an employment background check, on privacy grounds. The Left would be upset about employers using information about sexual orientation or membership in political groups (unless it's nasty extreme right-wing stuff like Tea Party membership), so this is just another privacy issue.

4 posted on 03/09/2012 7:37:54 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

Perhaps elsewhere, but not in MO.

Only Law Enforcement queries see the endorsement. Only through court ordered processes is there means to reveal/release CCW endorsement status to ANYONE else, as it is a “closed record”.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000101.HTM

see RsMO 571.101.9.


5 posted on 03/09/2012 7:59:32 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Manly Warrior

How about arrest records for being involved in a shooting that was finally ruled to be self-defense? Do those get expunged and outside the reach of background checks?


6 posted on 03/09/2012 8:57:04 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: marktwain

Things are so much easier in Arizona.

“Say, young lady, when you are about town like today, just wearing your bikini, where on Earth do you keep your gun?”

“Why, good sir, I am not carrying a gun!”

“Good heavens! And out in public? My wife carries a spare with her, and I will ask her to give it to you as a loaner until you can properly arm yourself. What would your parents think if they saw you parading around half-defenseless like that? People will talk! Scandalous!”


7 posted on 03/09/2012 9:29:18 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I still have a keyboard. LOL! Your dialog would fit in a Heinlein novel,


8 posted on 03/10/2012 6:32:39 AM PST by marktwain
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To: bunkerhill7
-- Holder said yesterday to CSPAN Congressional Justice Budget Committee Hearing that he wants to restrict the Second Amendment. --

The formal legal policy of the federal prosecutorial branch is that the 2nd amendment does not include a right to bear arms outside of the home.

9 posted on 03/10/2012 6:44:22 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: marktwain

Heinlein did have considerable foresight. I can imagine Vegas evolving into his “double or nothing” society.

Also a society where only veterans are enfranchised, which is just tantalizing to try and imagine.

An interesting observation made about those critics of Heinlein who called him a “Social Darwinist”, is that Social Darwinism exists naturally, and much like natural selection, is indifferent to its advocacy (accurate or not) or criticism. People may influence it for a while, in one way or another, but in the end it wins, and accomplishes its ends, not those of its advocates or critics.

Gun rights are an excellent example of this, in that an armed society is indeed a polite society. As those who are “impolite” with guns don’t last too long. “Social Darwinism.”


10 posted on 03/10/2012 8:31:44 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Cboldt
Sorry but my family has had arms in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont, & Connecticut since 1644. All my ancestors carried guns outside the home. During the Revolutionary War, my ancestors had their own weapons at Bunker Hill and the Battle of Saratoga II.

During the War of 1812, when the US Army was decimated in Vermont by smallpox, the Essex County, Washington and Clinton County NY farmers rallied with their own muskets as Indian allies of the British had started raiding forays south ahead of the British Army and the head of the NY Militia in Albany told them to ``fend for yourselves`` as it could not help them.

The farmers rallied to Plattsburgh where they crossed the river to attack the British lines, because the regular green US Army forces were just sitting there, doing nothing. [Watson, Crockett].

During hunting season here in my home town, we regularly have rifles and shotguns in the cars and deer on the car hoods. We regularly bring the deer sometimes into the local bar to show it off, together with the guns.

We have been doing this since I was a kid in 1940`s, that I recall. My uncle brought home an English sniper rifle after WW1.

Even my uncles brought home enemy weapons [Lugars] etc.from WW2 and regularly paraded them in the Fourth of July parade. After the Korean war my uncles brought home many carbines and Browning automatics.

In the 1930`s, the local Hilbillies here held off revenooers who trespassed upon their farms without a warrant with shotgun rocksalt, looking for hooch that wasn`t there. They were never prosecuted.

After the Civil War, my great-grandfather and his brothers brought home their big Army rifles, which I fired as a kid and hurt my shoulder.

In 1970`s a man from Florida bought a local restaurant here. He had a Florida permit to carry a pistol. The local cops respected that and he was carrying everywhere he went. They never bothered him.

When drug gangs came here in 1980`s looking for traffic they didn`t stay long because the local residents were also armed with automatic weapons. The local cops only had shotguns and pistols.

My cousins on the reservation regularly carry AK-47`s everywhere on the reservation since the Vietnam War and even cross into Canada bearing arms because the reservation is on both sides of the St. Lawrence River. ha..

My brother always carries a Russian automatic assault rifle in his car at all times. He has been doing this since 1960`.The local cops and troopers know, never bother him.

The people know better than the feds. Just read the northern NY State newspapers 1800`- til now.

History bears witness to this fallacy of ``only in the home.``

11 posted on 03/10/2012 8:47:47 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Fully-Armed citizens prevent and overthrow dictatorships?????? ?? Who knew?)
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-- History bears witness to this fallacy of ``only in the home.`` --

I agree, and I think it's obvious. However, is is official and formal policy of the federal government to assert that the US Constitution does not prevent the federal government, or any other government, from enforcing criminal penalties on carrying of firearms outside the home.

The federal government is best viewed as an adversary aligned against the people.

12 posted on 03/10/2012 8:55:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
My neighbor down the street has a 4 inch fully operational cannon sitting on his front lawn.

He fires it off every Fourth of July since 1948.

My hillbillie friend has two American 2 inch 1758 fully operational restored brass cannon on her front lawn since 2005- She also fires them off on the Fourth of July.

Nobody bothers them, not even the feds.

We are all armed up here.

Some parts of the country are out of touch with America.

13 posted on 03/10/2012 9:19:22 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Guns and butter`?????? ?? Who knew?)
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To: marktwain
The mere fact that something like this needs to be considered tells us more about the State of the Union than we would ever guess.

We are fast becoming a nation of Fools fueled by willful ignorance and Utopian fantasies.

14 posted on 03/10/2012 9:26:26 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I doubt it. It is a record of arrest, nothing more. I would think an attorney would advise one to have documents asserting the facts , so the arrest is just that, an arrest.

Perhaps there is a process for removal of such records following a “no bill” or an acquittal etc, but I am not aware of of the specifics.


15 posted on 03/13/2012 9:30:34 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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