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To: unspun

You know, I thought Conservatives had a high opinion of Christian values.

Then one stands up and runs for the presidency, and folks all of a sudden take offense because he espouses their beliefs in public.

What’s wrong with espousing the belief that abortion is wrong, and that less promiscuity before marriage is a good thing?

This post in objection to Santorum’s values, is that what you wish to rest your hat on.

Is this an admission that Balut doesn’t back these values? What the heck?


14 posted on 03/09/2012 9:18:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: DoughtyOne

There is a huge difference between our founders’ vision of a Christ-informed populace participating in self governance and a policy of trying to run the entire (federalist) nation from Washington DC, to obey the dictates of a city-state located on a boot-shaped peninsula of Europe.

http://gulagbound.com/27042/post-supertuesday-song-for-americans-fighting-for-our-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-151491

Newt Gingrich is pro-life and pro-marriage. So is Santorum. Gingrich wants to aggressively defend America from Agenda 21, plus audit The Fed and act upon what information is attained. Santorum is wobbly on this and is a ‘team player.’ Which is more moral?


21 posted on 03/09/2012 9:32:13 AM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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To: DoughtyOne

Christian values are a big part of but not all that matters to me. Rick Santorum’s voting record on Socially Conservative issues is at best no better than Newt’s then there is the matter of “Fiscally Conservate” issues. Then there would be the ability to articulate what is needed to fix America and to clearly define issues and solutions and the difference in the socialist and Conservative principles and ideas. Newt will take the fight to obama ans will beat him. The difference is being in Presidential, not wanting to denigrate Rick but I’ve heard him described as an “over zealous hall monitor” and I belive that is how he will come across and be portrayed. Social Conservative issues are important to me but that is not all that’s on the table. We need an extrodinary individual for these times and I can’t think of any, anywhere better suited for the task ahead than Newt Gringrich whether they are in the race or not. Below are some of thr reasons I’m for Newt.

Newt Gingrich, an Extroidinary Man for These Extrodinary Times

Newt Gingrich is a Historian, he loves this country and understands our Constitution, our system of government and the sacrifices made by patriots to create it, and the importance of maintaining it. He knows how government works and how it should work. He is intelligent, educated, and has common sense. He has been in the public eye for thirty five years and has made public controversial decisions, he has cast over 7200 votes, made over 15,000 speeches, written twenty four books. His voting record has been consistantly “Conservative” whether you are speaking in terms of “Social”, “Fiscal” or anything else, Newt Gingrich is “THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE.” His original “Contract with America” led to CONSERVATIVE Republicans taking the US House of Representatives and appears to be the basis for the modern day Tea Party. Under his leadership as Speaker of the House the Republican Congress produced four consecutive balanced budgets, welfare reform, strengthened our national defense and intelligence. The CBO had forecast a deficet for ten years of 2.5 trillion dollars when he was elected Speaker and four years later the ten year forecast was for a surplus of 2.5 trillion dollars for a turnaround of 5 trillion dollars. They cut taxes and unemployment dropped to 4.2%. President Clinton talks of his administration having balanced budgets, surplus, and welfare reform, that’s true but it was thrust upon him by Newt and the Republican Congress. Spending and earmarks dropped as soon as Newt became Speaker and both remained low during his tenure as Speaker and skyrocketed as soon as he left the Speaker’s position. Those who didn’t want him keeping government spending under control, the Republican establishment, are the ones who are now attacking him and trying to stop his return to Washington. Republicans should be apologizing to Newt for squandering the bounty he brought to the country instead of attacking him. I believe this is Newt’s time. America is in trouble and needs an advocate, Newt Gingrich is that advocate.

FRank


31 posted on 03/09/2012 10:00:44 AM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne; All

What’s wrong with espousing the belief that abortion is wrong, and that less promiscuity before marriage is a good thing?
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We know that already. We don’t believe in abortion or same-sex marriage or having sex with a billy-goat. And the average American doesn’t give a sh** if two high school kids use a condom this weekend. Rick bashing JFK’s 52 y.o. speech on “Separation of Church and State” again today, is not going to lower the damn gas prices, raise the Employment numbers or protect us from Iran. He is the 21st Century Pat Robertson who ran in 1988. Best I remember, Pat never made it to the Oval Office. We (GOP) had control of the White House and both Houses of Congress AND WE STILL HAVE ABORTION. Turn the friggin’ record over. Rick needs to get his head out of his a** and run for President of this nation not our national Priest.


70 posted on 03/09/2012 11:58:31 AM PST by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Haven’t seen you in a while, nice to see you here again!!!! Santorum
is doing very well standing on strict conservative values, you are right
many here should be thankful. I just think most worry if he has the pit
bull street fighting attitude it will take to go against Obama!!!


124 posted on 03/11/2012 8:10:47 AM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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