Posted on 03/12/2012 12:24:07 AM PDT by U-238
One of the early calls that Vladimir Putin took following his expected victory in the Russian presidential election last weekend was from Pakistan Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani. He congratulated Putin on his success and invited him to visit Islamabad in September which the Russian leader accepted, according to newspaper reports citing an official statement.
It would be the first visit by a Russian head of state to Pakistan which stood on the other side of the Cold War, peaking in its emergence as the staging ground for the U.S. campaign to defeat the Soviet Union’s occupation of Afghanistan. It’s now again the frontline state in America’s war against Islamist militants in Afghanistan, but it is a far more conflicted partner than those days of war against the godless communists. So fraught and uncertain is the nature of the relationship with the United States that Pakistan has sought to deepen ties with long-time ally China, but also Russia, the other great power in a dangerously unstable neighbourhood.
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I guess Russia is leaving India for Pakistan. China is already supporting Pakistan
At some point, Russia is going to get consumed by its betrayal.
Russia sees a new client state to by its military hardware.
This also gives Russia an excuse to expand its powers into Central Asia along with China.
To go along with my Russia/Syria Ping from 2-3 weeks ago.
pokiston is a whore... pooty ain’t got the money to buy more than a five minute session.
LLS
They are not. Not even close.
There is nothing for Russia to be gained from Pakistan. Even with India buying more weapons from US, Europe and Israel, the total volume of weapons brought from Russia runs into 10s of billions of dollars. More then anytime during the peak of Indo-Soviet alliance during cold war. Pakistan has brought nothing from Russia except a few Mi-17 helicopter. And then there is Indian investment in Russian oil and gas, Shaklin II and Russia building nuclear reactors in India and supplying nuclear fuel.
And what does Pakistan have to offer? Nothing!
The major focus of the visit was to improve bilateral relations with particular emphasis on ways and means to enhance economic cooperation between the two countries.Russia wants to set energy deals with Pakistan.The Russians want to invest $500 million on the CASA-1000 electric transmission line to supply Pakistan with the Central Asian power from Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.
With deterioration of Islamabad’s ties with Washington, Moscow is seeking a closer relationship with India’s arch-rival with the blessing of China
http://ipripak.org/factfiles/ff87.pdf
http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-defence-industry/139288-pakistan-russia-s-most-important-partner-south-asia-putin.html
http://www.forum-adb.org/inner.php?sec=13&ref=extras&id=141
Perhaps something that India never gave the USSR despite decades of "closeness": a naval base close to the Persian Gulf for the Russian Pacific Fleet.
Highly doubt there are any plans for the Russian “Pacific Fleet” to build a base in Pakistan on “Indian Ocean”. Russia’s two biggest threats are NATO in the west and China in the east. Russia has no strategic interest on the Indian Ocean.
$500 million investment is peanuts. And Pakistan is hardly a huge energy market. India is an energy mega-market. Pakistan already had oil and gas pipeline from Iran. If India is a big huge pie, Pakistan is a breadcrumb. Russian military industrial complex will die overnight if India stops investing or importing from Russia.
Lastly only fools build bases in Pakistan. US has already learnt that and China is about to learn that.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2853603/posts
And Russia doesn't have a lot of happy memories about Pakistan from their war in Chechnya.
How could Russian Military Industrial Complex die out? India was a launch customer for the Su-30s. The single largest defense contract in the late 90s with over 272 total purchased. The Indian contract later on helped win several more customers in Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Algeria, Venezuela. Indian money helped maturation of the Su-30MKI model and to an extent also funded the further development of Su-34, and Su-35s. Indian money is currently helping the development of the PakFa 5 gen fighter. Indian money helped Migs and Sukhoi survive financial bankruptcy through the bad years 90s and early 2000 via several large scale modernization and upgrade program of India's Mig 21s, 27s, 29s not to mention the large contract and development of naval Mig-29K, Mig 29SMT. When was the last time the Mig won a major export contract?
And then the big and small contracts of Mi-17 helicopters, Kamovs, IL-78s refuellers, AWACs and upgrade of Tu-146 and IL-38s, medium transport jet over a couple thousand T-90 tanks and T-72 upgrades.
Even Russian ship building industry has been surviving entirely on Indian money with Admiral Gorshkov deal, Krivak class stealth frigates, Nerpa/Akula subs.....
Does Iran or Syria buy aircraft carriers or nuclear subs?
And “collorabration “(sic) with China? What “collorabration “? China, all they did was buy a few Russian fighters and copy them and they are now export competitors of Russia.
The Russians can easily make up that money. One of the reasons why they are sticking by Syria is becauste lost a $4 billion dollar contract with Libya.
Have I heard of “seed money”? Ummm.... me thinks you read too many fantasy thriller novels.
Have I heard of “seed money”? Ummm.... me thinks you read too many fantasy thriller novels.
The Russians can easily make up that money. One of the reasons why they are sticking by Syria is because lost a $4 billion dollar contract with Libya.The Syrians are retrofitting their naval base at Tartus.
Make up all that money out of thin air? When was the last time Russian navy or airforce made a big ticket purchase of a brand new fighter or submarine/aircraft carrier? Where is the money?
Libya just fell apart and Syria is going down that road next. Yeah right, stick with Syria. /s
The Russians are very good at selling their military wares.
Aww jeez, thanks. I know what seed money is.
Then again the wikipedia link doesnt quite explain $500 million “seed money” for what? The last couple time Russia played the “Great Game” they lost.
I am sure they are. Question is, they got any bigger buyer then India?
Why do keep posting those lame wikipedia links? Why dont you just say what you want to say to make your point.
I think Putin wants to win this “Great Game”
http://www.ceps.eu/book/russia-central-asia-old-history-new-challenges
http://www.cacianalyst.org/?q=node/5140
Why not? You can read the links, can you?
I am not spamming you. I just showing you the reserch. I am not here to hold your hand.
I am giving you the material. You should be happy that i am helping you out
I appreciate, but I think you are the one who needs more help.
Btw wikipedia is not research.
Good Links though at the end
Good Links though at the end that lead you articles
Even though you are wrong, I sincerly apologize for getting angry at you. It was uncalled for and deeply apologize for it.
Lol. Its all good. No worries.
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