Posted on 03/15/2012 10:52:58 AM PDT by Danae
I hit the bulls eye Pal. Top edge of 80 is bottom edge of 08. 2008 is in the stamper for 9 months, with the lower edge getting hammered a few hundred times a day, with the outer edge taking more blunt force pressure than the inner part. Our postal worker agrees that the stamp edges get crushed, lowering the outer portions of the insert.
By my and others guesses the forger had two days to make it ...Obie was on the news saying he had registerd for the draft in 1979 (actually 80) so immediately people began searching for records...
On Sept. 7, 2008, Obama appeared on ABCs This Week with George Stephanopoulos, and stated, I had to sign up for Selective Service (SS) when I graduated from high school And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We werent engaged in active military conflict at that point. And so, its not an option that I ever decided to pursue.
FOIA requests were made in October and the SS computer showed an access date of September 9, 2008..thus the two days to come up with something...
What you have not done is explain why the "19" isn't there so you get no brownie points.
The 20 was cut out of the insert with a razor. Hello???
Wake up and smell the subscript and kerning.
Correct. According to Zullo, they could NOT find a 1980 stamp so they had to use the 2008 stamp. Hence, cutting off the 20 and inserting 08 upside down. They stuck it on the end instead of the middle of the insert without thinking about how it would look offset like it is.
Where’s the 19?
There is no 19 because there is no 19. Got it?
Every other stamp out of that office in 1980 had 1980 because they were stamped in 1980. This forgery was stamped in 2008.
Yes, that is Correct. There should be a 1980.
The clipped edge of 80 proves it is a used and inverted 2008 insert with 20 cut off. There is no 19 because it wasn’t stamped with 1980.
Simple question. Do you think this is a forgery or not?
“Of course! With the year plug only being changed once a year, it gets lots of pressure on the outer edge.”
Thank you Miss, your input is much appreciated.
Three Simple questions.
Should the top of 80 be printed with ink on the 8 and 0?
Why would the top edge of both numbers be missing? (Hint: Inverted 08 after 9 moths of pounding on lower edge. Are you seeing this?)
Is the Docment a fraud?
Do you think this is a forgery or not?
I believe there is very strong evidence of it being a forgery. Namely because of the missing 4 number year stamp.
So let me ask you this, you being an engineer and all...
If one were to "roll" a flat stamp, as you suggested earlier, then isn't it logical that the outside edges of the stamp would be what was worn away instead of what was in the middle and which would have an even pressure exerted upon it?
See 194.
See how bold the numbers in the center are?
The outside is generally worn or light, not the inserts in the middle.
I just can't see your "rolling" method and explanation as viable. That type of stamp simply isn't used in the manner in which you prescribe.
We agree that its a forgery.
We agree the outside of the stamp would be worn more.
The botom edge of 08 will be crushed down when compared to the top edge.
When stamped as 2008, it will still work.
When stamped is flipped as 80, it will be crushed just enough not to print because the high side will now be on the outer edge. The inner edge of 80 will be to low to contact the paper.
This is just more evidence to back Arpiao.
Sorry, your explanation just doesn't make sense.
I'm done. Believe as you will.
Eventually it will make sense to you.
When you smash a stamp you can’t hit it flush every time. That causes uneven wear. That extra concentrated wear is to the outside of 2008. Flip it inward and the inner edge will not print.
Pretty basic. It validates Arpaio conclusion.
The forger could not order a new 2008 insert. He might get caught.
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