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John Demjanjuk, convicted death camp guard, dies
AP Via Yahoo news ^ | March 17, 2012 | DAVID RISING

Posted on 03/17/2012 8:38:34 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town

BERLIN (AP) — John Demjanjuk, a retired U.S. autoworker who was convicted of being a guard at the Nazis' Sobibor death camp despite steadfastly maintaining over three decades of legal battles that he had been mistaken for someone else, died Saturday, his son told The Associated Press. He was 91.

Demjanjuk, convicted in May of 28,060 counts of being an accessory to murder and sentenced to five years in prison, died a free man in his own room in a nursing home in the southern Bavarian town of Bad Feilnbach. He had been released pending his appeal.

John Demjanjuk Jr. said in a telephone interview from Ohio that his father apparently died of natural causes. Demjanjuk had terminal bone marrow disease, chronic kidney disease and other ailments, and local authorities said the exact cause of death was still being determined.

It was not yet known whether he would be brought back to the U.S. for burial.

Ukrainian-born Demjanjuk (dehm-YAHN'-yook) had steadfastly denied any involvement in the Nazi Holocaust since the first accusations were levied against him more than 30 years ago.

"My father fell asleep with the Lord as a victim and survivor of Soviet and German brutality since childhood," Demjanjuk Jr. said. "He loved life, family and humanity. History will show Germany used him as a scapegoat to blame helpless Ukrainian POWs for the deeds of Nazi Germans."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: demjanjuk; houndedtodeath; ivantheterrible; johndemjanjuk; nazis; notivantheterrible; obit; obituary; rip
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To: CodeToad

“He was found guilty with plenty of evidence to show it.”

The Supreme court of Israel doesn’t agree with you. And in any case, to have *Germans*, trying Ukrainians, for events occuring 1941-44,,should raise an eyebrow.
Especially when so many high ranking of their own got to live out their lives.


21 posted on 03/17/2012 10:36:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: CodeToad

“In Panzer Leader, Guderian said that he was fully aware of the brutal occupation policies of the German administration of Ukraine, claiming that this was wholly the responsibility of civilians, about whom he could do nothing.”
Retired openly in Schwangau, in the Bavarian Alps,,

Peiper of the SS Malmedy Murders,,, landed in a nice executive position at Porsche.

Reinhard Gehlen,, Nazi Intellegence leader,,Worked for the CIA, and headed German Intelligence from the mid 50s. He retired from government service in 1968, receiving the pension of a Ministerialdirektor (one of the most senior civil service grades),plus, allegedly, a pension from the CIA. He died in 1979 at the age of 77. Made a “Knight of Malta” in the 60s.

SS man Von Braun. Who has the distiction of building a weapons system that murdered more in the construction factory, than killed on the battlefield. Wound up with a nice retirement gig with NASA.

So does it strike you as a bit odd, so much effort was brought to bear against someone who at BEST was a ukrainian national, concripted as a camp guard to avoid being in the camp too? And with thin evidence,,, despite widely known solid evidence against others who were not pursued, or were lightly punished?


22 posted on 03/17/2012 10:57:45 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: wideawake

You’ve had stuff to say about this guy.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 1:02:26 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Jim from C-Town; a fool in paradise

The Devil is a ‘Nazi’, while all the angels have been Communist!


24 posted on 03/17/2012 1:06:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: CodeToad

If Israel didn’t find him guilty, you can rest assured he was not guilty. That should have been the end of it.


25 posted on 03/17/2012 1:12:19 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: CodeToad
except for the fact that Soviet Archives PROVED the evidence was false.

He may or may not have done whatever. He certainly was NOT Ivan the terrible of Sobibor and was PROVED innocent of those charges by none other than the Israeli Supreme Court.

26 posted on 03/17/2012 1:14:04 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: beelzepug

Legal technical glitch. They said they did not consider him innocent just not proven guilty.


27 posted on 03/17/2012 2:29:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

“PROVED innocent “

Legal technical glitch. They said they did not consider him innocent just not proven guilty.


28 posted on 03/17/2012 2:30:09 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: CodeToad
Technical legal glitches kept him alive, not any innocence.

Not being the camp commandante "Ivan The Terrible" is a little bit more than a "technical legal glitch". It's more like a royal f&&& up on the part of the people trying to convict him.

29 posted on 03/17/2012 2:39:49 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: CodeToad
Wrong. The Soviet archives showed that the ID card was made by the KGB, The evidence was not only weak it was damn near nonexistent!
30 posted on 03/17/2012 2:45:57 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

CodeToad is clearly indicative of why Demjanjuk was hounded even after Israel made its determination. Some people just can’t let go of things they’re “sure” of despite the evidence or lack of it. This was a witch hunt.


31 posted on 03/17/2012 5:47:50 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: CodeToad

Looks like you were at Christ crucifixion too?


32 posted on 03/17/2012 6:10:46 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: CodeToad

And that is exactly how a proper justice system is supposed to work. I’m pretty sure if you asked any prosecutor, he’d tell you every defendant he ever tried was guilty but that dad-gum proof thing sure seemed to get in the way a lot.


33 posted on 03/17/2012 6:19:33 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: Jim from C-Town

RIP.


35 posted on 03/17/2012 7:24:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj
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