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What If Oil and Natural Gas Are Renewable Resources? (Evidence mounting on limitless supply of oil)
American Thinker ^
| 03/18/2012
| Greg Lewis
Posted on 03/19/2012 6:58:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Deep-Earth theories of the Origin of Petroleum.
Here's how the theory explains the process:
Eugene Island is an underwater mountain located about 80 miles off the coast of Louisiana in the Gulf of Mexico. In 1973 oil was struck and off-shore platform Eugene 330 erected. The field began production at 15,000 barrels a day, then gradually fell off, as is normal, to 4,000 barrels a day in 1989. Then came the surprise; it reversed itself and increased production to 13,000 barrels a day. Probable reserves have been increased to 400 million barrels from 60 million. The field appears to be filling from below and the crude coming up today is from a geological age different from the original crude, which leads to the speculation that the world has limitless supplies of petroleum.
To: SeekAndFind
I like the way these articles make liberals’ heads explode.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:01:32 AM PDT
by
andyk
(Tax credits for your kids == Welfare)
To: SeekAndFind
I have been saying this for decades now.... “fossil fuels” is nothing but a myth... want proof, bury a dead animal in your yard, return in a year and dig it up... you have bones and dirt, not oil.... millions of years will not turn bone or dirt to oil.... ashes to ashes, dust to dust (not ashes to oil, dust to oil).. another econazi myth..
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:01:42 AM PDT
by
joe fonebone
(Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
To: SeekAndFind
Oil and gas are renewable resources. Always have been. Anyone in that industry understands it. Only and idiot or fool or government hack believe it comes from “dino-sources”
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:02:41 AM PDT
by
edcoil
(It is not over until I win.)
To: andyk
“How are we supposed to be able to control all these people and impose our utopia on them if they have access to all the energy and mobility that they want!!!!????”
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:04:42 AM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: joe fonebone
Also, isn’t Titan, one of the moons of Saturn, covered in lakes of frozen natural gas? Sure as heck aren’t any dead dinos there.
Humans have only scratched the surface of what’s in the earth. We have little idea what’s actually down there. The deepest bore-hole of any kind was drilled by the Russians - about 40,000 feet, I believe.
that’s not even a pin-prick, given the size of the Earth.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:07:00 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: SeekAndFind
I remember Rush Limbaugh talking about this years ago. It’s seems that old oil wells are filling back up from farther underground. Which could only mean that either the earth is a LOT older than scientists believe and we are only tapping the “top layer” of oil (which seems unlikely as there are other methods to measure the age of the earth), or at least a portion of the oil is being produced by a non-biological process down near the mantle and working it’s way up (which would mean that the supply of oil is essentially limitless). While this theory is certainly not mainstream, there is some evidence, not the least of which is the abundance of hydrocarbons the moons of Saturn, which certainly weren’t produced by biological means.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:07:51 AM PDT
by
apillar
To: SeekAndFind
I remember Rush Limbaugh talking about this years ago. It’s seems that old oil wells are filling back up from farther underground. Which could only mean that either the earth is a LOT older than scientists believe and we are only tapping the “top layer” of oil (which seems unlikely as there are other methods to measure the age of the earth), or at least a portion of the oil is being produced by a non-biological process down near the mantle and working it’s way up (which would mean that the supply of oil is essentially limitless). While this theory is certainly not mainstream, there is some evidence, not the least of which is the abundance of hydrocarbons on the moons of Saturn, which certainly weren’t produced by biological means.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:08:03 AM PDT
by
apillar
To: SeekAndFind
Natural gas can obviously be created by non organic means. After all there is no life on Titan and that moon has oceans of methane. In addition unlike petroleum biology creates methane quickly and in vast quantities. If we were ever to find a way to economically extract methane hydrates we would have access to more than twice the amount of energy as contained in all other sources of “fossil” fuel. In addition the hydrates form quickly from decaying plankton. So you mine the area and in a few decades it is filled back up again. More like forestry than than traditional mining.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:09:12 AM PDT
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
To: SeekAndFind
I’ve always agreed with abiotic oil but would add that we need to determine the “balance point” of our use v. abiotic production.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:09:40 AM PDT
by
Cletus.D.Yokel
(Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
To: SeekAndFind
Honest question here: Is it possible to used carbon dating on oil?
If it were found to all be millions of years old then yes there is a finite limit based upon how much we are bringing to the surface.
If it were found to be much younger then a case could be made that it is being produced now and then we would need to know how much per decade vs how much we are extracting.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:11:42 AM PDT
by
Wurlitzer
(Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
To: joe fonebone
Agree. I have said for years that there could not possibly be enough plants and dinosaurs that died to create the billions and billions of oil that exist today.
Every day we consume 19 million barrels of oil, every single day!
How many brontosauruses is that?
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:12:14 AM PDT
by
exit82
(Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:13:09 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
To: Wurlitzer
Carbon dating won’t work past 20k years, and I’m being generous.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:14:45 AM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: SeekAndFind
This has been pretty evident for a while, oil is not a limited resource created by dead and long decayed plat and organic matter, but the end result of processes within the earth.
Of course, can’t say for 100% certainty that is what is going on, but we have never been able to say with 100% certainty that the current believe its created from long dead organic matter is right either. They have based this belief on the fact that coal is obviously created that way, and that organic markers can be found in oil.
However if Oil is produced by microbial action far below the surface, finding organic residue in oil would be expected.
I think the evidence that its not limited supply, has been mounting for a long long time, but no one wants to accept this reality.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:18:40 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
To: joe fonebone; thackney
I have been saying this for decades now.... fossil fuels is nothing but a myth... want proof, bury a dead animal in your yard, return in a year and dig it up... you have bones and dirt, not oil.... millions of years will not turn bone or dirt to oil.... ashes to ashes, dust to dust (not ashes to oil, dust to oil).. another econazi myth Wow, don't even know where to start. Oil is the result of extreme pressure, heat and lot's of time.
Srs. you need to take a basic education courses, not at the college level but 5-6 grade level. Your response is embarrassing to say the least
To: joe fonebone
want proof, bury a dead animal in your yard, return in a year and dig it up.
You have obviously never been to a peat bog. You bury something in that low oxygen/high acidity soil and you get something very close to coal in only a few years. I can't vouch for oil, but it isn't a stretch to get from old dense peat to lignite coal. Heck if you pull the layers of lignite apart carefully it still has the plant imprints in it. In addition the process of decay into peat creates lots of methane as a byproduct.
So it isn't hard to see that coal and methane can be formed biologically. The question is only if that is the only way and the evidence appears to be no.
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:20:22 AM PDT
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
To: Red Badger
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:21:02 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: Wurlitzer
Carbon dating is a tough call out to where oil and coal were formed. Best estimates for Midwestern (Illinois Basin) coal is 260 million years ago. Powder River Basin sub-bituminous is younger.
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