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To: JediJones
The church can't throw abortion doctors in jail and stop states from redefining marriage as two women and one cow or whatever they think up.

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Exactly right. Some issues must be dealt with by the government.

95 posted on 03/19/2012 4:20:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham; gogogodzilla

Seeing as the right to life was actually mentioned in our founding documents, I think that’s more than enough prerogative to consider abortion a federal issue. You would always have the issue of people crossing state lines to do it, which would make any particular state law ineffectual. If it took a constitutional amendment, that’s fine.

And in the case of marriage, it’s just stopping the government from being involved. If two same-sex people, or three, or four, want to claim they’ve been married, that’s up to them, but there shouldn’t be any government recognition of it. And marriage/divorce/custody is far too legally complicated an issue to have different rules set up in different states.


97 posted on 03/19/2012 4:25:18 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: trisham; JediJones

>> “The church can’t throw abortion doctors in jail and stop states from redefining marriage as two women and one cow or whatever they think up.” <<

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Churches should throw no one anywhere; its not their purpose, but the institution of marriage was declared and defined by God, and for a governmental entity to attempt to redefine it in any fashion is a clear violation of the first amendment, in as much as it totally obliterates the free exercise clause.
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98 posted on 03/19/2012 4:27:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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