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Do Wavering Obama Voters Think the Man They Voted for Is Naïve?
National Review ^ | March 20, 2012 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 03/21/2012 6:34:48 AM PDT by george76

Do Wavering Obama Voters Think the Man They Voted For Is Naïve?

How do you persuade someone who voted for Barack Obama in 2008 to vote for the Republican option in 2012?

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a lot of Obama voters must be persuaded that they made the wrong choice in 2008, and that it isn’t their fault.

Monday I spoke to a smart political mind who had been watching focus groups of wavering Obama voters in swing states, and he said that one word that those voters kept coming back to, again and again, was “naïve.” (The term was to describe the president, not themselves.) Those who voted for Obama won’t call him stupid, and certainly don’t accept that he’s evil. But they have seen grandiose promises on the stimulus fail to materialize, Obamacare touted as the answer to all their health care needs and turn out to be nothing of the sort, pledges of amazing imminent advances in alternative energy, and so on.

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If we’re seeking to persuade Obama voters that it’s okay to vote for someone else this time, perhaps we need to reinforce that notion that he just doesn’t quite understand how things work in the real world — that he understands the theories of job creation, but not the practice. He talks about a future of algae-powered cars while rejecting pipelines.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; elections; naive; nave; nobama2012; obama; obamavoters; voters
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1 posted on 03/21/2012 6:34:52 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The policies that he is dogmatically sticking to are not working to accomplish the goals that his supporters think that every sane individual would have, yet he keeps doing them.

A few possibilities, though there may be others -
he’s naive, he’s stupid, or

his goals are not the same as those of a sane (non-communist) individual.


2 posted on 03/21/2012 6:37:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: george76

He’s not naive or stupid. He’s doing exactly what he and Ayers and Dohrn planned on doing years ago...............


3 posted on 03/21/2012 6:40:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: george76

Actually, the word they’re looking for is knave.


4 posted on 03/21/2012 6:41:28 AM PDT by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: Red Badger

“He’s not naive or stupid. He’s doing exactly what he and Ayers and Dohrn planned on doing years ago..........”

That is certainly one way to think of it.

On the other hand, a lot of us have never seen such an instance of cluelessness in our lives. The Cretin-in-Chief is most like an idiot-savant of liberal arts....brilliant (like certain dictators that come to mind)...in saying words with no meanings.

But clueless in all real intellectual matters.

After all, if one is a socialist/communist, one is in the came class as flat-earthers and global warming alarmists.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 6:43:19 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: MrB

Perfect.


6 posted on 03/21/2012 6:43:25 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1156 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: george76

They only nativity is the voters.


7 posted on 03/21/2012 6:46:12 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: george76

I “naive” connects with wavering Obama voters, make it a Republican talking point. Let it stick. It may be too hard to convince them that Obama knows what he’s doing and he’s doing this things intentionally.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 6:47:18 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (I'm stocking up on toilet paper. It will hold its value better than the dollar.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Morgan in Denver; neverdem; LucyT

Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.

http://www.hark.com/clips/fsjhlcrmmb-reagan-liberals-know-so-much-that-isnt-so


9 posted on 03/21/2012 6:48:16 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
How do you persuade someone who voted for Barack Obama in 2008 to vote for the Republican option in 2012?

or at least not vote at all.

10 posted on 03/21/2012 6:49:27 AM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: george76

Evil yes, Naive is an over statement he is a bumbling idiot.


11 posted on 03/21/2012 6:51:08 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: george76

He is deliberately wrecking the economy, the societal values of America and the nation.

It is a Democrat value to conceal the truth in order to manipulate the public, as this author is suggesting.

Our responsibility is to tell the truth. What happens to that information is out of our hands.


12 posted on 03/21/2012 6:52:02 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: george76

Exactly.


13 posted on 03/21/2012 6:52:52 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Piranha

From Romans 1:18,

the unrighteous suppress the truth


14 posted on 03/21/2012 6:53:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Obama isnt a native either.


15 posted on 03/21/2012 6:54:59 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Jihad is an institution inherent to the Islamic system itself; a permanent religious obligation)
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To: MulberryDraw

0 will still have his Kos kids, but the vast majority of independents need to conclude that Naive 0 just can’t get the job done


16 posted on 03/21/2012 6:55:30 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Da Coyote

OTOH, he could be the greatest con-artist since Barnum.............


17 posted on 03/21/2012 6:55:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: Red Badger
You are 100% correct. He is also evil to the core.

But you won't win over former ObaMao voters by speaking the harsh truth. If selling them on the naive or stupid line gets them to change their votes, then we'll have the chance to educate them on reality economics.

18 posted on 03/21/2012 6:56:12 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MulberryDraw

You got it...and that is sort of what the article says. It will be nigh impossible to convince the beloved independent swing voters (ie, those that elected obama) that he is evil.

(Though of course around here, we know that he is).

But it is certainly very possible to convince those voters that he is just naive (”he means well, after all...”).

Yes, it wants to make us puke. But we are unlikely to get a thorough national repudiation of obamanomics. We might be able to push him out of office, though. And no repudiation is possible unless he is out of office...Ergo...

I agree with all of this article, except for the cleverly crafted sentence that suggests that the majority of voters who seem him as naive (but not evil) are probably right.

They are NOT right; but, we have to, alas, wage a campaign as if they were.

(Then again....IF we had a competent, capable, ethical conservative who could articulate consistently a true national repudiation of obama and all things ayers, that would actually sell, I think....problem is, we simply don’t have such a candidate and likely never will).


19 posted on 03/21/2012 6:57:13 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: george76

In order to understand them, you have to understand their motivations.
Your standard sheeperal clings to the lie of “I’m a good person” or “I’m a superior person”. Everything they believe, support, and do is with the goal of affirming this lie. They are not interested in examining an issue beyond the point where this goal is satisfied.

Any discussion of how the policy/issue/person they support is not “good” is taken as a personal attack, because it strikes at their sense of goodness or superiority.

This is why it is so difficult to discuss issues with sheeperals. You think you’re discussing the best policy to accomplish a stated goal. They feel attacked when you deride their pet policy.


20 posted on 03/21/2012 6:58:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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