Posted on 03/21/2012 6:55:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
It's not easy to make Al Sharpton appear relatively restrained in a racially-charged case such as the one involving the death of Trayvon Martin. But Joe Scarborough has managed to pull off the dubious feat. On today's Morning Joe, Scarborough flatly branded the reported shooter, George Zimmerman, a "murderer." It was no slip of the tongue. A couple minutes later, Scarborough declared that Zimmerman had "murdered" Martin.
Sharpton himself never used such language, generally describing Zimmerman as the "shooter," and even imagining, without endorsing, a scenario in which Zimmerman might have been acting in self defense.
View the video here.
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I glommed on to those statements as well. This certainly clarifies why he’s not in jail. I’m really interested in the physical evidence. I want to know if this kid “punk’d out” and tried to attack Zimmerman with a brick or a pipe or a tree branch. If so, Zimmerman was within the bounds of the law.
There is no registration requirement for weapons in FL. This statement is/was likely from a journalist with no understanding of the law, unless I’m misunderstanding something.
Every liberal friend or non-gun owner I’ve ever talked to about guns thinks that registration is required to own a gun. I laugh at them every time.
Whatever handgun he carries is not "registered," There is no provision for such registration in FL, and no public records of the gun are kept other than records of the gun shop on their possession of it until transfer of the piece after background check of the purchaser; purchaser's identity erased a few days after transfer.
M was, as a minor, a person prohibited from public carry or handling of a DW except (I believe) on a recognized firing range and under the direct supervision of a person not prohibited. Long guns not classes as DW, I suppose. AFIK
My guess is that since Z was not operating under color of law enforcement, the police dispatcher would not give him, a private citizen, a direct order to cease and desist; but would more likely request that he refrain from direct involvement and wait for police intervention. Which, of course, he could ignore. IMHO.
Thanks for your factual piece of the puzzle!
Trayvon Martin: Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee temporarily steps down
Temporarily stepping down after a vote of no confidence by the city council. Unreal! Liberal touchy-feely garbage!
With Holder in charge of the DoJ, regardless of his innocence, Zimmerman's going to jail.
Civil War II is coming, folks.
Every last part and parcel is set in place for it. Just need that one violent catalyst.
I, for one, am encouraging it. Why? Because the sooner it happens, the less likely Obama will try to pass gun control legislation. Also, the liberals will realize pretty damn quick how well-armed the conservative populace really is, and they’ll be quashed like bugs when the thugs try to run the streets.
I’d have absolutely no problem going to work with my AR-10 strapped to my back.
He has a concealed weapons permit. Here is the questionnaire you can use to determine if you are eligible
He has a concealed weapons permit. (according to kabar)
Under Florida law there exists no such thing as a permit to own a handgun.
Therefore, Zimmerman does not have a permit in Florida to own a handgun. It is not required.
That is, a Florida resident may walk into a store, select a handgun pass a background check, pay the money, and walk out of the store with the gun in a paper bag or other enclosure. Or he may encase it in a snapped holster, clip it on his belt in plain sight, and walk out onto the street. A Florida resident may buy or be given a handgun by another Florida resident, with no further documentation other than that of proof of ownership AFIK. In either case, there is no permitting or licensing required for the transfer of ownership.
In Florida, if one is not a person prohibited, upon application the State of Florida shall license a person to carry a deadly weapon concealed on or about his/her person.
Zimmerman was not a person prohibited.
Therefore, subsequent to submitting an application for a license to do so and meeting the requirements, Zimmerman was issued a document licensing him to carry a a deadly weapon concealed on or about his person.
In Florida, in preparation to learn how to pass a test for the automobile operator's license, the student/learner must qualify for and obtain a learner's (temporary) permit to drive a vehicle on the highway. The permit requires the learner to be accompanied by a licensed operator. Zimmerman was licensed to operate an auto.
Zimmerman's auto was separately licensed to operate on Florida's highways, and carried a license plate pertaining to it.
Therefore, both Ziimerman needed to be licensed as an operator, and his vehicle needed to be licensed to be operated on Florida highways.
A driving permit is not the same as a driving license.
In comparison:
Zimmerman was licensed to possess a handgun concealed on his person.
Zimmerman's handgun firearm was not required to be licensed or to have a document permitting it to be owned or used in Florida. Therefore, Zimmerman did not have a concealed weapons permit, in the correct technical sense.
Zimmerman had a license to carry a concealed deadly weapon on his person.
You will note that the application form you linked to is entitled "LICENSE" -- not "PERMIT."
His his CCDW had no connection with nor bearing on his appointment as a community watcher. It was just an ordinary citizens license to carry, which the State of Florida must issue not only for any Florida resident, but also for any citizen of the United State who qualifies for a Florida CCDW license.
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IN CONTRAST (and to the best of my knowledge, hastily and hazily):
At the time I lived in New York State, the rules were much stiffer. To possess a handgun firearm, a resident had to apply to the county court to obtain a permit to do so, with the gun paid for but held by the Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer. The serial number and description of the firearms bill of sale was then submitted with and clearly attached to the application for a Premises Permit of a particular residence or business, for the lowest and narrowest class of permit.
About other permits I cannot speak much. Each additional handgun needed to be individually approved and its description attached to the particular permit records of the owner. Thus, both the owner and each of his handguns must be permitted, as well as the permitted locality of the firearm.
If he was further permitted to carry a concealed deadly weapon about his person, it is himself and the gun permitted to him that is covered. Therefore, he has a concealed weapons permit.
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What is your question, and what is the point?
Are we communicating? Or am I just being dense, stupid, and boring?? I'm perplexed.
Though I will note that at the time I was licensed for CCDW in Florida, if potentially threatened, the licensee was required, not to stand his ground, but rather to make every effort to retire from the scene insofar as possible, unless blocked from further retreat.
That quite likely may have changed. Though again, only the living will testify as to what happened, but ......
With cordial regards ---
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/911/call1.wav
Space in to about 2:21.
The house crackers are carrying the lynchin’ rope for the critical race theory rope-a-dopes.
Hey, Joe. Lay down your race baiting rope. We have the rule of law in America - at least we like to pretend we have the rule of law in America when the killing does not involve a police officer “defending himself.”
There is nothing to suggest that Zimmerman made first contact, let alone confronted or even approached Martin. In fact, one might reasonably assume that Martin became the predator at this point. Knowing that he was being watched, he quickly ducked for cover with the intent of turning the tables on Zimmerman and outflanking him, taking him by surprise.
Here's the link to the 911 calls:
As is usual in a racist witch hunt, the lies travel around the world before the truth gets it’s pants on.
They are spreading the lie that Zimmerman used a racial slur. They are claiming he’s white when he’s hispanic. All racial lies to inflame the lefty racists. They did this to the Duke players, too. They really persecuted those innocent boys.
I have seen so many racial witch hunts conducted by the Left, I never automatically beleive their claims unless it is on film. Most of it will be lies and be seeking to incite mob violence and separation.
They don’t like Americans having the right to defend themselves. They don’t like whites (even though the perp is Hispanic). It is a power trip for them.
A Neighborhood Watch sign stands outside the gated The Retreat at Twin Lakes community where Trayvon Martin was shot by George Michael Zimmerman while on Neighborhood Watch patrol on Feb. 26, 2012 in Sanford, Florida. (Photo by Roberto Gonzalez/Getty Images)
When 28-year-old George Zimmerman was discovered by Sanford, Florida police standing over the body of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they accepted Zimmerman’s claim that he killed in self-defense as a neighborhood watch captain. Now, through a statement released by the National Sheriffs’ Association (NSA) — the parent organization of USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch — it has been revealed that Zimmerman was not a member of any group recognized by the organization. Zimmerman violated the central tenets of Neighborhood Watch by following Martin, confronting him and carrying a concealed weapon.
“In no program that I have ever heard of does someone patrol with a gun in their pocket,” Carmen Caldwell, the Executive Director of Citizens’ Crime Watch of Miami-Dade, told theGrio. “Every city and municipality has their own policies. Here in Miami-Dade we train people only to be the eyes and ears of their communities. Not to follow and most definitely not to carry a weapon.”
Despite this, Zimmerman admitted that he had fired a weapon on the night of the incident. In addition, the non-emergency call Zimmerman placed on February 26 before the shooting revealed he had been pursuing Martin by car before accosting the youth on foot — all direct violations of Neighborhood Watch policies.
“The alleged action of a ‘self-appointed neighborhood watchman’ last month in Sanford, FL significantly contradicts the principles of the Neighborhood Watch Program,” NSA Executive Director Aaron D. Kennard, Sheriff (ret.) said in the press statement. “NSA has no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program.”
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