Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

PGW, others fight U.S. new-furnace rule
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | March 4, 2012 | Andrew Maykuth

Posted on 03/21/2012 8:05:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

With little fanfare, the U.S. Department of Energy enacted a rule last year that will require all new furnaces installed in 30 Northern states including Pennsylvania and New Jersey to be high-efficiency models.

Who would object to such a noble effort to conserve energy?

Philadelphia Gas Works, for one.

The city-owned utility is among several parties that have challenged the Energy Department's rule, saying that some homeowners cannot afford to install costly high-efficiency heating systems and will opt for cheaper electric or kerosene heaters.

They say the new rule, which will go into effect nationwide in May 2013, will have the unintended consequence of inducing some homeowners to choose less-efficient heating methods to save up-front costs.

The government and supporters of the standards argue that homeowners will save money in the long run and that the high-efficiency furnaces collectively will achieve big environmental and economic benefits.

But Bert Kalisch, president and chief executive officer of the American Public Gas Association (APGA), says the long-term savings are irrelevant to millions of Americans who live paycheck to paycheck.

"One does not have to be a proponent of the Occupy Wall Street movement to understand that poverty (however defined) is a growing problem in this country and that the lower-income portion of our population is having trouble making ends meet," Kalisch wrote in a filing last year.

PGW and other utilities say furnaces that achieve at least a 90 percent efficiency rate not only cost more, but also require direct-venting systems that are not well-suited to city dwellings.

High-efficiency furnaces are vented directly through a wall. But in cities such as Philadelphia, where side-by-side rowhouses proliferate, owners cannot vent onto a public sidewalk or beneath a window. So they must vent through chimneys, requiring the installation of expensive liners and mechanical exhausts.

UGI Utilities Inc., the Valley Forge company that is Pennsylvania's largest distributor of natural gas, says that relining a chimney in an urban area could add $1,200 to $2,500 to the installation cost. It says the Energy Department underestimates the up-front costs, which some homeowners might never recover.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: doe; energy; furnacerule; furnaces; nannystate; philadelphia; poverty

1 posted on 03/21/2012 8:05:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The people writing the EPA rules all live in the metropolitan DC area. They use heat pumps or natural gas. They have virtually no idea what to do with older oil, coal or electrical resistance heating systems. They probably think such things are fictitious.
2 posted on 03/21/2012 8:09:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Chu gets another A+. /s


3 posted on 03/21/2012 8:10:38 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

“..in the metropolitan DC area.”

I would bet they all live in apartments...and never have had to replace their furnace. That’s for “rich” who own their own homes.


4 posted on 03/21/2012 8:21:57 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Energy-efficiency nanny-state PING!


5 posted on 03/21/2012 8:39:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
EPA writes regulations.

They don't worry about economic impact even when irrigation dams are blown up.

6 posted on 03/21/2012 8:46:15 PM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


7 posted on 03/21/2012 8:46:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Alamo-Girl

BTW, the price for freon for a/c units has doubled since last year, acc to my cooling technician.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 9:03:12 PM PDT by Ciexyz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

With some high efficiency furnaces, the flue gases are cool enough that you can vent them with plain old PVC pipe. They would definitely save some money in the long run.


9 posted on 03/21/2012 9:11:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Ciexyz

I wonder how they justify such a dramatic increase...


10 posted on 03/21/2012 9:13:06 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: mo

.and never have had to replace their furnace.”

I would suspect that many of these folks haven’t a clue as to where their heat and air conditioning come from, or their water or electricity. Rather like all of the people who come to the fair or livestock show for the first time and are amazed to find out that milk comes from a cow. And no, cows do not produce chocolate or strawberry milk-at least not yet.


11 posted on 03/21/2012 10:29:16 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That’s the all powerful New Deal Commerce Clause at work, folks.


12 posted on 03/21/2012 10:56:15 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mo
More than likely they live in the DC suburbs. Now their bosses ~ the lawyers and appointees ? They might live in apartments.
13 posted on 03/22/2012 5:29:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson