Chinese leaders order internet whitewash amid rumours attempted military coup

Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 22 March 2012 | Peter Simpson

[PotatoHeadMick]

'Tanks in the streets of Beijing'

Nervous leaders in China have blocked all internet reports of an alleged attempted coup.

Online reports of tanks on the streets of the capital Beijing and shots fired within the secure leaders' compound - which is located next door the top tourist attraction, the Forbidden City - are being closely monitored by the international intelligence communities, including the U.S. and UK.

Popular Chinese microblogging sites Sina Weibo, QQ Weibo and the bulletin board of the search engine Baidu, all reported 'abnormalities' in Beijing on the night of March 19.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Nothing on the scale of Tienanmen uprising, but there had been some sophisticated moves in Beijing with APCs and police cars moving here and fro, and with crackdowns on the Chinese internet when discussion of same (along with photos), take place. There was some action on the main　Beijing drag, Chang An　長安街 Blvd, the other night. I guess the Chicoms monitor FR so I will not go into detail all the other things are are known about them at this time, but things are touhy. Factionalism and vying for power. Same thing is occuring in North Korea, but in that case, more with outright purges involving executions, not just house arrest. I mean, they are mortaring people from 300 yards it seems. Really sick stuff coming from the new Boy King up there.

[Brown Deer]

this hasn’t disappeared yet? ;-)

[dfwgator]

What do you mean, economically or politically?

Yes.

[hoosiermama]

How much influence does an unstable China have on the boy king?

[righttackle44]

Are we sure what's allegedly going on isn't simply the opening of a new Chinese amusement park called Tiananmen Square Massacre Fantasy?

[PotatoHeadMick]

So do I understand you correctly that some sort of extra security activity is occurring and the internet is indeed being blocked?

Would you say then that there might actually be something to this report?

[AmericanInTokyo]

Well,　internet　blocking　occurs　incessantly.　For　information　out　of　there,　you　need　two　or　three　independent confirmations.　Sometimes　the　sources　are　simply　very　anti-PRC　regime　and　will　print　anything,　such　as religious cults being cracked down upon by the PRC authorities. The best eyewitnesses might well be US or other foreign businessmen there who might be cavalierly witness to such stuff going down, or maybe foreign students who are fluent in Chinese who can pick up what the rumors are. In this day and age of small webcams, iPhones, flash drives, twitter, dummy domain names/blockers, proxy servers, etc. there are ways to get the photos out and over the "Chinese Great Wall". I have already seen one, several nights ago, of a blocked Beijing intersection by Public Security Bureau police, but not a particularly large presence such as columns of armored vehicles. If they start to kick out foreign press you will know something is coming down. I dont want to go into too much detail here as I dont want to quote a source in open form and then have the gonganju show up on that persons front door with handcuffs.

[PotatoHeadMick]

Now being picked up by the BBC’s correspondent.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17476760

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

“I say we go into orbit and nuke them from space.” Ripley

[A Navy Vet]

"If they start to kick out foreign press you will know something is coming down."

Agreed. My thinking is that a faction of the Chi-com high command is trying to re-constitue their old communist ways. China has become a powerhouse of economics, but the elders are growing weary of market economics. They want the old communist ways, as many do in Russia.

Think obama and all his "high command" who want a socialist/communist system. Much easier for a nation that has experienced it for decades to re-constitute.

[spokeshave]

Sounds like our “boy king” (Obambi for those in Rio Vista) gets his 3am call.

[AmericanInTokyo]

"Raise the Red Banner of Mao Tse Tung thought HIGH!" / sarc

Well, at least Anita Dunn will be pleased. Probably scores of other czars and czarinas in the White House, too. Certainly lots of folks at the State Department China desk will get a boner over it (China going more Red).

[RayChuang88]

I think someone big is up when the following start happening:

1. The foreign press is forced out of China, or at least out of the city of Beijing.

2. The Chinese government interrupts the operations of Walmart and McDonald's in China, and news start coming out of Bentonville, AR (the corporate headquarters for Walmart) and Oak Brook, IL (the corporate headquarters for McDonald's) of such an event. It would also be necessary to closely monitor any activity at Apple, since Apple products are assembled by several Foxconn assembly lines all over China.

[GraceG]

[ “If they start to kick out foreign press you will know something is coming down.”
Agreed. My thinking is that a faction of the Chi-com high command is trying to re-constitue their old communist ways. China has become a powerhouse of economics, but the elders are growing weary of market economics. They want the old communist ways, as many do in Russia.

Think obama and all his “high command” who want a socialist/communist system. Much easier for a nation that has experienced it for decades to re-constitute. ]

Not to mention if China’s economy starts tanking a bit (which it seems to be doing). It will give the old Guard a lot more excuses/reasons to seize control over the younger people in leadership....

[THX 1138]

Check out a book by a Canadian guy who has spent a lot of time in China, named Troy Parfitt "Why China Will Never Rule The World". There is a short YouTube video of him speaking as well.

His argument is that, because of its history of Confucianism, which preaches a strong hierarchy (the intellectual class loves that), they'll never be able to compete with the west, let alone exert much, if any, influence in the world. Interesting argument.

[darrellmaurina]

22 posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:40:56 PM by Brown Deer: “this hasn’t disappeared yet? ;-)”

No kids involved, plus it's not Spring Break in Mexico. /sarc

Seriously, I support what Free Republic's admin mod did in following the lead of others in yanking inappropriate posts on the Obama children. My point is that the Chinese have no legitimate reason to get American websites to scrub discussion of this.

Also, thank you to TigerLikesRooster and AmericaninTokyo for your work on the ground. The next time I'm in Korea, I may ask if I can look both of you up since most Korean flights stop in Tokyo. Unfortunately the last time I was sent on business to Korea by my newspaper was over a decade ago, and I lost out on a chance to work for the English-language desk of a certain Seoul newspaper in 2001, so all my Korea travel since then has been personal on my own dime. Plus now I have to pay somebody else to do my job when I'm gone on top of paying my own paycheck. Capitalism sometimes carries certain negatives like having to figure out how to pay my employees and my own bills, too, but obviously the Chinese and North Korean alternatives to capitalism are horrifically worse.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Just let us know...

[Outlaw Woman]

This was reported on Rick Wiles/Tru News the night before last. My brother called me but I couldn’t find anything on it at all but this confirms it. DM has lousy editing but they do seem to break stories or print stories quicker than the maggots we call journalists here in the states.

[Outlaw Woman]

Correction: It was on the Roger Hedgecock show.

[LomanBill]

[My thinking is that a faction of the Chi-com high command is trying to re-constitue their old communist ways.]

Paranoid about getting a run on their NyLon pantyhose maybe.