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To: JoSixChip

If you read the article carefully, all it says is that the shooter was not racist. The friend was NOT an eye-witness to the shooting. Gingrich and Obama both need to stop making racial capital off this tragic case. We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots or at least shots that would cause non-lethal injuries. Even Jeb Bush noted that under FL law the stand your own ground defense would not be available here. Maybe you know a lot more than the eyewitness accounts we’ve heard so far.


17 posted on 03/25/2012 1:17:06 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
If you read the article carefully, all it says is that the shooter was not racist.

So why the "White" Hispanic terminology?

Have you ever heard the term "White" Hispanic before this case?

28 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:31 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Steelfish
"We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots"

Clearly you do not have a clue about self defense. But I must admit it is fun watching you santorum supporters twist your self into pretzels trying to change reality to match what he said.
30 posted on 03/25/2012 1:25:04 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: Steelfish
We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots or at least shots that would cause non-lethal injuries.

Still posting absurd comments I see. Your thinking is twisted in a significantly left-tilting or a typically ignorant manner concerning self defense and firearms in general, IMO.

Real life isn't a moronic hollywood movie. I implore you to consider that before continuing your comments.

Who cares what Jeb Bush has to say about stand your ground? Self Defense is Self Defense. Consider THAT!
35 posted on 03/25/2012 1:28:34 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Steelfish
"We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots or at least shots that would cause non-lethal injuries."

You haven't the slightest clue what you're going on about, now do you?

You've never owned a weapon or had any weapons training....and IF you had, you slept through it and should never be allowed to own a weapon.

There is no such thing as a "warning shot". That's Hollywood bullshit. You pull that weapon, you aim, fire, and shoot to kill. Period. You want to try and guess whether your attacker is armed in a split second? Be my guest. You'll be a corpse.

38 posted on 03/25/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Steelfish

Are you that freakin’ dumb? “Warning shots???”....”Shots that would cause non lethal injuries???” Not one accredited firearms instructor, or use of lethal force expert/attorney has EVER advised your idiotic remarks be followed. If the weapon is ever drawn and it is pointed/directed at a human being by you it means you feel your very life is in the most severe jeopardy at THAT point. (And you had better be DAMN sure it is/was). You shoot to 100% stop that threat to your life at that time then. “Warning shots”? Wise up.


63 posted on 03/25/2012 1:50:02 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: Steelfish
“Gingrich and Obama both need to stop making racial capital off this tragic case.”

This is just nuts. You have officially gone off the deep end trying to justify everything Rick says and attack everything Newt says even if it means making things up.

Accusing Newt of trying to make racial capital off of this is dishonest and offensive.

75 posted on 03/25/2012 1:56:00 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: Steelfish

You don’t use warning shots or shoot to wound, that’s in the movies. There appears to be some evidence if what I’ve read is true that only one shot was fired from the semi-automatic handgun and that the empty shell casing was in the chamber and had not been ejected. This could be and most likely, caused by someone (probably the “victim” in a struggle for the gun) having a tight grip on the slide as the gun was fired preventing the shell casing from being ejected and the chamber being re-loaded. Close quarters and a struggle for the gun would preclude warning or wounding shots.


97 posted on 03/25/2012 2:19:19 PM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Steelfish
We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots or at least shots that would cause non-lethal injuries.

Source?

Any thug that expects a warning shot from me had better be wearing a vest.

How does one guarantee "non-lethal" injuries?

Also, Martin was obviously not "completely" unarmed. He was able to inflict injury on Mr. Zimmerman.

Sheesh.

99 posted on 03/25/2012 2:21:50 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: Steelfish
Gingrich and Obama both need to stop making racial capital off this tragic case

Did you forget SANTORUM or was it intentional? FWIW, I missed what Gingrich said about this, care to repeat it?

101 posted on 03/25/2012 2:23:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: Steelfish

You never fire warning shots or shoot to wound. Any one with any self defense traing knows this. At this time the only evidence released shows that Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle and then the 911 call from “John” stating that Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him and Zimmerman was calling for help. This is consistent with the physical evidence, Zimmerman’s injuries and his statement. If Martin did attack Zimmerman as he stated then this is a clear cut case of self defense.
I don’t know the law in FL but in PA SYG law means that you have the right to use deadly force to protect yourself or another from the threat of grave bodily injury or death anywhere you have a legal right to be.


109 posted on 03/25/2012 2:32:28 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Steelfish

Steelfish,

And what do you know?

Again, no one should make any implied statements until the investigation is over. You are making statements based on incomplete reporting that he should of fired warning shots... yet I’ve seen reports that indicate Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle when Martin came back and attacked him... there was even a 911 witness who reported that Martin was on top of him beating him... another report indicates that there was a struggle for control of his gun... so at which point do you fire warning shots?

The situation is fairly fubar’d and disappointing... but it is what it is and the police and DA will investigate it... unfortunately, if it turns out that Zimmerman’s account is accurate and he is not charged then the rest of the folks who have already tried and convicted him will want blood... If it turns out that he did something wrong then I’m confident that the local system will handle it.


110 posted on 03/25/2012 2:32:44 PM PDT by djl_sa (Looking forward to 2012!)
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To: Steelfish

>> [Gingrich] needs to stop making racial capital off this tragic case.

More blague on behalf of the sanctimonious candidate that has no time for evidence and due process.

Santorum: Zimmerman ‘has a very sick mind,’ motive ‘a malicious one’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2863627/posts


111 posted on 03/25/2012 2:35:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Steelfish

“...We don’t kill completely unarmed people...”

Sure we do.

If a 6-foot person is sitting on your chest, beating in your face with his fists and you have a gun in your holster, are you going to let him kill you OR are you going to save you life?

The police made a determination based on evidence at the scene, on 911 calls and eye-witness accounts.

I suspect this whole tragedy could have been avoided if Mr.Martin had used common sense, stopped, and chatted with Mr.Zimmerman. Mr.Zimmerman has, as a member of community watch, a history of informing the Sanford police of questionable or suspicious activity in that gated community. He does not, as far as I can ascertain, have a history of violent confrontations, something community watch folks are warned against doing.

If you go to the City of Sanford’s online site, the telephone calls are all there as well as a report from the City Manager, Norton Bonaparte

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf

Note: I’ve known for a year that the BHO2 administration was going to stir up a race war this coming summer. Anything that can be used to divert attention away from Obama’s atrocious record will be used. We are now getting a taste of it. If George Zimmerman is seized by a black mob and lynched, the result will not be good for BHO2 or this nation.


129 posted on 03/25/2012 3:20:19 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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