[sickoflibs]

RE :”i sunk that ship looooooong ago when i demanded that MY *representative* MUST do more than pay lip service [hint greengrinch] to balancing the books...
i said take a friggin meataxe to it, let the chips fall where they may, and shrink it back to size..”

...and I differ a bit on that opinion too.
It's not that I want them to try to go all the way with a losing game plan, and then just put Pelosi back in the Speakership similar to 2009 and 2010. That won't help at all.

Ryan got the panic attacks when that commercial came out showing Ryan throwing Grannie off the cliff, and he held a Townhall meeting-on it and gangs over 50 screamed at him over medicare, probably the same ones that screamed at Obama for raiding Medicare for Obama-care. So in response they made that deal with Obama to remove the possibility of a shutdown until after the election day, then they still got their butts kicked on FICA once again not knowing what they were doing.

I want them to actually beat Dems, to make Obama scared of the issue not look scared themselves and claim they meant will, much like gas prices are doing now. If they pitch something that is very unpopular there is no way Obama will sign it.

[Gilbo_3]

...and I differ a bit on that opinion too.

i know, you would rather use a filet knife and win the tactical victories in the political and PR sense...i just want to nuke it all, as its the only way to be sure...

one of us will get satisfaction in the short term, and both will be allies in the long haul...8^}