Posted on 03/27/2012 12:17:24 PM PDT by Kaslin
Thank you for accepting my apology in our private conversation. I am in the selection/training business for commercial pilots, so I did act in a hair trigger manner. That ol’ ‘reply’ button was too easy to push without realizing who the sender was.
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Not a problem.i have a technical question for you.
Are pilots permitted to be on flight status
while using psych-tropic drugs e.g. SSRIs
This pilot definitely sounds bipolar.
I dont buy for 1 second that this was his first crazy incident. He had to do this before.
The list of drugs a pilot can take and fly is a pretty short list. If you did a web search with words like FAA flight surgeon approved medications you could see what I mean.
Short answer: If your sick, don’t fly. That would be true of a private pilot or a pilot flying for hire.
Psych-tropic drugs? No way. A diagnosis of mental illness and you can kiss your medical certificate good bye for a long time.
I would agree.....I'm thinking in this case someone may have spiked whatever he drinks with LSD.......
But who knows.......
Seems unusual that in this instance, and the recent one with the stewardess, there were no air marshals on board. The TSA is quite secretive about how many marshals they even have. I saw a CNN report that the TSA denied the report that less than 1% of flights have air marshals.
This is our government who makes us jump through hoops to board a plane, who denies us the means to protect ourselves, and yet, does not protect us. Heh.
Who takes responsibility for this? The Nappie?
I was surprised he was charged so quickly.
Perhaps it is my own naivete, but I would think they would have to be fairly confident it was not a true psyche emergency before pressing charges.
thank you for the link:Prior to the summer of 2010, the FAA did not approve any of the medications in this category--including serotonin uptake inhibitors (Celexa, Effexor, Prozac, Paxil, and Zoloft) as well as other psychoactive medications (Lithium, Buspar, Elavil, Sinequan, Amitripityline, etc.). These medications are sometimes used for non-psychiatric conditions, but are still not approved for use in flight in this context.from: http://aviationmedicine.com/medications/index.cfmThe FAA generally requires the pilot to wait 60-90 days after completing treatment with the medication. You must submit records of your treatment to the FAA for the agency's approval. Formal psychological testing is often required. VFS can assist with this process.
Starting in April 2010 FAA policy does allow an option for airman to be certified if on monotherapy for at least 12 months with only Celexa, Zoloft, Prozac, or Lexapro. This policy does not apply to controllers. See Depression in the Medical Articles section for more detailed discussion.
If I read this correctly the answer was NO
but now is YES you can fly using SSRIs
You are reading correctly. To have a pilot certificate or an FAA medical certificate is a privilege, not a right. You have to convince the FAA flight surgeon that you are okay. To do that will take time, tests, and money.
I can cite lots of people I know who have gotten their medicals back after heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, etc. I personally don’t know anyone who has had a psychosis diagnosis and has regained their medical.
There are three classes of FAA medical, first, second and third.
You need a first to exercise Airline Transport privileges. You need a second to exercise commercial privileges (crop duster, aerial photography, skydivers, corporate aviation).
A third class would be for private pilots flying for pleasure or in furtherance of their own business.
So if a person lost their first class medical, the FAA might give them a third class, just to minimize risk to the public.
Maybe they have to charge you with a crime to hold you for psychiatric evaluation. Don’t know. Just guessing.
Somewhere in Hollywood a movie idea is being pitched that includes the phrase “and we can get Alec Baldwin to play the captain!”
Look at it this way: Where would you prefer the 6foot+ crazy guy to be? INSIDE the cockpit where he can grab at controls or fight with the people trying to fly the plane, or OUTSIDE the cockpit? Because those are your only choices.
Maybe laying on the floor of the cockpit submitting b/c a gun was being held to his head by one of his cohorts. >>;)
Cracks in the Cover-Up
Posted: 04/13/2012 11:29 am
The recent very public emotional meltdown of a JetBlue pilot — just weeks after an American Airlines flight attendant broke down in front of passengers waiting for take-off — has many people wondering about the psychological health of pilots and flight attendants. What is going on with the employees in our airline industry?
As a former Pan Am flight attendant for 20 years, and now a psychotherapist and psychoanalyst for 25 more, I’ve been writing at length to sound the alarm about the decline of the American airline industry. In particular, I’ve discussed the traumatic emotional consequences to employees due to the massive changes they’ve had to endure.
In addition to ensuring the safety of passengers, pilots and flight attendants understand that their major role is to create the illusion of the flight crew’s emotional invincibility. In other words, they reinforce the denial of death. This is what I mean by the words “cover-up.” On board every aircraft are passengers who wonder how in the world this huge machine can actually fly. Moreover, they depend upon the comfort of knowing they have a fearless and confident crew taking care of them. Not always an easy task for the flight crew.
Having been a flight attendant, I know how psychologically ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/helen-davey/cracks-in-the-coverup_b_1419749.html?view=screen
I'm all for combat veterans flying commercially.
In fact, I think 757s and DC10's should be dogfighting over airports, competing for landing slots.
THAT would be AWESOME.
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