Posted on 03/27/2012 4:30:27 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Newt also told Truman Caputo he would consider being Romney’s V.P. if asked. This shouldn’t surprise anyone. Newt spent his career rebuilding the Republican party. He’s a party loyalist. He savaged Bush, Sr. for raising taxes but supporting him in the general election. He called Dole tax collector for the welfare state but supported him in the general election. You do have to admire him for looking past the personal attacks Romney conducted against him and believing there is a more important cause, defeating Obama.
http://electad.com/videos/newt-gingrich-talks-to-neil-cavuto-march-26-2012/
You said it. Exactly.
Yes, but when Romney was signing those things, using his office as Governor of Massachusetts to foment depravity in the form of cheap on-demand abortion and encouraging homosexual "pride" outreach into schools, he wasn't doing it because he hated Obama.
Would it have been any better if he had been?
Octarma, HATE MAKES YOU WEAK.
Courage makes you strong.
Remember it.
Four more years of Obama and kiss the USA goodbye...
Couldn’t agree with you more.
Can’t agree with you at all.
I don't think that you'll find very many businessmen in Massachusetts who rave about the wonderful Romney years.
I had actually posted that reponse without fully reading your entire post (my apologies), I did however, give a second response a little less flippant. I mentioned why I rejected the premise the entire original statement was built upon. Having said that, I truly respect yours and any other’s here who flat out refuse to support Mitt Romney based on past performance and current dallying. This is the same way I feel about Rudy Giuliani so believe me when I say I can see your point of view. I would never brow-beat someone who feels as you do into voting against conscience. I just hope you can understand folks like me who after the last 3 1/2 years and counting of what we’ve been put through-—are gonig through (hot mic slip....) will do what needs to be done to rid the country of the usurper-n-chief. We just have a difference of opinion as equating the two equally or Romney being worse...so you will have to do what you think is right and so will I.
If our choice in November is Romney or Obama, I have to conclude that God is in the process of harshly judging our nation. Left to their own political inclinations, both would do irreparable harm to our country. I would prefer a wolf in wolf's clothing to a wolf in sheep's clothing. A Romney victory effectively kills conservatism as a viable political force. That is not a price I'm prepared to pay for the very limited improvement he would provide over Obama.
Unlike Newt or Santorum or the other Republicans who would fall in line behind Romney if he gets the nomination, I'm not beholden to the Republican Party. My political loyalties are to conservatism, not Republicanism, so I am free to walk away if Romney gets the nomination. I fully intend to do so. In my circle of friends, I know at least a dozen life-long Republicans who are going to sit out the Presidential election if Romney is the nominee.
Romney in MA could have nominated conservative judges till the cows come home, and there is no way in heck the overwhelming democrat legislature would have approved a single one. Result? Shortage of judges and justice denied to litigants. So I will give him benefit of the doubt in MA situation.
His 800 veto’s in 4 years as governor is more than most anybody
has done in 4 years that I can think of. So I am giving him a plus on that.
In the final analysis, Romney is not my 1st or 2nd or 3rd or 4th choice. Cain, Bachmann, Newt, Perry are/were my first 4. However I am mature enough to know one does not get the ultimate wish in life. Politics is not a zero sum game. You get the best you can get.
President Reagan said it best “I will vote for the most conservative who can get elected”. And that surely excludes Hoffman in NY-23 and Angle in NV.
President Reagan said it best “I didn’t leave my party. My party left me.”
I had no idea President Reagan had left the republican party before he passed away. I thought he died a republican.
Yes, in 4 more years of Obama, USA will look like Cuba.
But there is a small benefit in that. There will be no more illegal immigrants coming in. No one tries to get in Cuba, legally or illegally.
Forgive me for my skepticism but I get the feeling that you're being disingenious. You claim ignorance of Romney's judicial appointments but then pulling up a "fact" like that makes me suspicious. Combined with your recent sign-up date makes me even more skeptical.
It's easy to claim to support real conservatives but now feel resigned to voting for Romney. Free Republican veterans saw a lot of dishonest postings by Mittens in the 2008 election cycle.
Assuming that you are being truthful in your concerns, are you not troubled by Romney's apparent lack of political convictions in putting forward court nominees who he supposedly disagrees with because they can get approved? Surely Romney could have put up a true moderate instead of the liberals he did. Is this the kind of spinelessness that we could expect from a Romney Presidency?
You might claim maturity in your stance but others might see selling out. Personally, I'm not going to compromise my principles to support a candidate who will give us 75-90% of the Obama agenda just because he has an "R" behind his name.
You better check your quote. I believe that William Buckley made that statement. Whether stated by Buckley or Reagan, two men that I respected immensely, doesn't mean that I have to agree with the statement. I can think for myself.
And that surely excludes Hoffman in NY-23 and Angle in NV.
A Freudian slip? You're not reducing my skepticism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z6QOscKvUjU
Above is what I fear more than a Romney presidency.
My statement about the 800 veto’s is based on what I heard during the debates. I have not researched it, so do not know if it is correct. But since it was uttered in a nationally televised debate, and I did not see the MSM jumping on it, it is a fair assumption it is probably correct. I believe in supporting facts whether they are favorable or unfavorable. Once we start ignoring facts, we are essentially morally bankrupt.
For disclaimers, I have not favored Romney in this primary cycle. My main reason being he does not have a spine of steel ala Bachmann. My first preference was Cain because he would have had the best chance of defeating Obama, which is my ultimate wish. Cain is the only one who can break up 95% solid voting block for Obama..the A-A’s.
As things stand now, the reality is Santorum can not reach 1144. So we have either a brokered convention or Romney gets to 1144. If the latter is the case, my vote in November will be a vote against Obama.
More disclaimers: I am not a Mormon, and I have not sent a single cent to Romney. I will however send monetary contribution to whichever republican emerges as the nominee.
It is not fear..it is REALITY! why don’t YOU wait and see what happens at the convention. Oh and sure the gop is UNITED..BS! Obama has not united the republican party as is visible during this election. What the hell happened to the Tea Party?
IF Newt goes 3rd party..he has my support by 100% but hell NO to four more years of Obama and to anyone that supports the sob
An open convention should be the desire of every conservative. From a conservative perspective, we couldn't possibly do worse than Romney. I doubt anyone could name five Republicans with a more liberal record than Romney and even if someone could, none of them would have any chance of being selected in an open convention.
The only ones threatened by an open convention are members of the GOP-E who are scared to death that an open convention might actually nominate a conservative Republican.
There is nothing to be scared of if we go to a brokered convention. But if we do, most likely the nominee will not be from the 4 remaining.
Should Romney get to 1144, it is also possible one of the other 3 could make some kind of deal and combine their delegates.
In any event, this is turning out to be a political junkie’s dream year.
"Just don't you dare ever claim that you're a Conservative."
Using your categorical value/labeling-system, I then say to you, should you also be faced with that same choice...and you choose to sit on your hands and not vote:
"Just don't you dare ever claim that you're an American."
Romney is an American; Obama is NOT...he's a usurping marxist communist hell bent on specifically taking America completely DOWN.
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