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George Zimmerman's dad says Travyon told his son, 'You're gonna die now'
MSNBC ^ | March 29, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 03/28/2012 9:22:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On FOX Orlando Wednesday evening, Robert Zimmerman, the father of the man who fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, said his son was the victim. He said that Martin told George Zimmerman, "You're gonna die now, or you're gonna die tonight."

“George was going to the store, and he saw someone in his community that he did not recognize as living there,” Robert Zimmerman, a retired judge, said. “Because there had been a lot of break-ins in the area, he thought that was suspicious that someone would not be walking on the street or the sidewalk, but they'd be walking right behind the townhomes.”

Robert Zimmerman said that his son, George Zimmerman, 28, then called a non-emergency number to report this stranger. He lost sight of the teen as he looked for an address to report to police, Robert Zimmerman told the FOX affiliate....

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KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; notbreakingnews; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 03/28/2012 9:22:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How long before we start hearing that charges were not made because Zimmerman’s father is a retired judge...?


2 posted on 03/28/2012 9:29:39 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The elder Zimmerman said that as his son started to reach for his cell phone, Martin, 17, punched him in the nose, knocking the larger man to the pavement.”

So Zimmerman got punched as his hand went into his pocket to retrieve a bulky metal obeject?


3 posted on 03/28/2012 9:33:02 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: Outlaw Woman

Guess you missed it, that’s already one of their memes.


4 posted on 03/28/2012 9:33:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every word of the 911 call shows that Mr. Zimmerman was not in pursuit of Martin. He states several times that he “lost” him and said he did not want to finish giving his address to the dispatcher because “I don’t want to say it out loud. I don’t know where he is.”

If there is a trial Zimmerman will walk and the polarization will wreck Obama’s chances for reelection.


5 posted on 03/28/2012 9:35:05 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: Outlaw Woman

Already hearing it. There are even a couple freepers pushing the meme. It’s all over Facebook apparently.

I don’t think people will be happy until Zimmerman’s body is dragged through the street. Even then, they won’t be satisfied. :^(


6 posted on 03/28/2012 9:35:11 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But...but...but, Zimmerman's Dad is a white guy. This automatically disqualifies his statement! /sarc
7 posted on 03/28/2012 9:35:48 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: gopcharger

He already has the black vote and the far-left white vote. Why do they need to stir the sh*t like this if they have them in their pocket?


8 posted on 03/28/2012 9:39:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Shelayne; 2ndDivisionVet

Yes I did miss it. and you’re right, these people are ready for a good ole’ fashion lynching.

Like your home page shelayne. Come quickly Lord Jesus...


9 posted on 03/28/2012 9:39:57 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Bingo....first thing that crossed my mind immediately.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 9:41:04 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: turn_to

Stationed in Korea or live there?


11 posted on 03/28/2012 9:41:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Apparently we are slow mfh; a couple of FReepers have said it’s already the “meme”.


12 posted on 03/28/2012 9:43:12 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: Outlaw Woman

That has already started and by some here at FR, too. I think it was this past Sunday or Monday.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 9:44:58 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[ Jesse wept. ]

That must be the shortest verse in “Rules for Radicals.”(Alinsky)


14 posted on 03/28/2012 9:45:08 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: turn_to

So you’re saying Zimmerman could have shot Martin as soon as he put his hands in his waistband?

Didn’t think so.


15 posted on 03/28/2012 9:47:26 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You have to listen to the 911 tape again because what is key is how long Trayvon Martin was missing from Zimmerman’s sight. Zimmerman was NOT in pursuit and said SEVERAL times on the call that he “lost” him and “I don’t know where he is.” And “I don’t want to say the rest of my address out loud..I don’t know where he is.”

Puts the lie to the meme that he was in “pursuit” and it’s CLEAR that Martin at that point was in pursuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL72w4xiTVU


16 posted on 03/28/2012 9:48:41 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Robert Zimmerman, a retired judge, must have retired a looong time ago. Today, if a black man is trying to kill you, you must remain perfectly still until he is done.

Hell, that’s what we’re all doing for Obama isn’t it?


17 posted on 03/28/2012 9:48:41 PM PDT by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will cost him Hispanics and a huge number of white independents who would have voted for him. A lot of them will probably be in FLORIDA.


18 posted on 03/28/2012 9:49:07 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He already has the black vote and the far-left white vote. Why do they need to stir the sh*t like this if they have them in their pocket?


1 > To keep racial tension going and hopefully cause major civil unrest.

2 > To draw attention away from the absolutely disgraceful and horendous Obama record.

We’ll see a crisis a week from now to the election.

Remember: “Never let a crisis go to waste”.


19 posted on 03/28/2012 9:49:39 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

George Bush and Dick Cheney caused this to happen


20 posted on 03/28/2012 9:50:05 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: turn_to

So Martin can defend himself against a perceived threat but Zimmerman
cannot defend himself against an actual attack.


21 posted on 03/28/2012 9:51:20 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trayvon Martin threatened to kill George Zimmerman, Zimmerman's father says
22 posted on 03/28/2012 9:52:48 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: gopcharger

One juror to hang it. Then the city will burn. Obama solidifies his base. COMMERCIAL: if you don’t vote, your son will die like Trayvon.


23 posted on 03/28/2012 9:53:23 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Travis McGee; Pelham

The real question has alwwys been why does white America allow itself to be bullied by minorities?

They are called minorities for a reason and most whites fear most of them either literally or politically

Our ancestors....at least mine for sure....were never such chumps

Precious few brass white people left

“But wardaddy, it’s not about race”

Sorry it is to them and that train long ago left the station

The day decent whites reclaim their balls is the day we take our nation back

And everyone including minorities will be the better for it


24 posted on 03/28/2012 9:55:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: turn_to

If a kid was rushing toward him, I do not believe he was reaching for a cell phone. Anyone would have reached for a gun.


25 posted on 03/28/2012 9:55:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: turn_to
No one said a bulky metal obeject but you. Whose phone is bulky? You and your preconceived ideas need to take it somewhere else.

turn_to
11-23-11

26 posted on 03/28/2012 9:57:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Shelayne
Already hearing it. There are even a couple freepers pushing the meme. It’s all over Facebook apparently.

At least one black freeper, if not more. Identity politics dies hard, even in a relatively open and shut case like this one. I'm sorry, but my instinct is not to defend the "victim" in a situation where his parents start out with a PR offensive that includes baby photos and leave out his record of drug-, theft- and assault-related juvenile delinquency. It's one thing to put your best foot forward, and quite another to lie by omission.

27 posted on 03/28/2012 9:57:50 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, 2nd Division, Obama has been loosing the black vote...and he’s a master at knowing how to push their buttons and get them rallied....all democrates do that...this is nothing new. Obamas hurting the black working community very much as well as students in the area of jobs and the like. Not to mention gas prices, food etc.

The Obamamachine is pushing this whole affair....along with the media pimping whatever it takes to make this a racial issue and to divert the election away from obamas failures and more importantly the crap he’s pulling off currently.

Look what he’s planning on doing with Russia....this was gigantic, it should heave been played on every network and panel discussions with it for weeks.... and yet everyones completely focused on this race thingy....made to order.


28 posted on 03/28/2012 9:59:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: turn_to

Cell phones are not “bulky” and also not “metal”. Sorry...but that dog don’t huint.

Trayvon knocked Zimmerman down...he should have left it at that and got the heck out. But he didn’t. He proceeded to beat Zimmerman severly, hitting him in the face and then bashing his head against the ground.

As a result, he got shot and killed. Tragic for a young man’s life to end like that...but I would have done the same thing at that point.

Trayvon initiated violence, then stepped it up to endanger Zimmerman’s life.

Zimmerman’s condition as described by the police and the witnesses matches what he said happened. I believe now that Zimmerman defended himself, and did so legally.

It’s time Florida’s elected officials grow a pair and send the State Troopers to either evict the New Black Panther’s from the State or arrest them for conspiracy to commit kidnapping and assault, if not murder.

This is all genned up race baiting and divisiveness to destract the public away from Obama’s abysmal record as President.
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America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

The Man who Despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm


29 posted on 03/28/2012 10:01:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: doug from upland

He was going to call back the police, he was to meet them. I’m sure it was on speed dial. Who said he was rushing towards him?


30 posted on 03/28/2012 10:01:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: doug from upland

One juror to hang it. Then the city will burn. Obama solidifies his base. COMMERCIAL: if you don’t vote, your son will die like Trayvon.


That would also backfire.

0bama is an evil bastard and more and more people are figuring that out.


31 posted on 03/28/2012 10:02:42 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Live here. I used to be military be I’m a contractor now.


32 posted on 03/28/2012 10:03:15 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: doug from upland
"If a kid was rushing toward him,"

If he even saw him approaching. It sounds like he didn't see him until he was right next to him.

"Zimmerman attended a four-month law-enforcement program in 2008 at the sheriff's office, said Kim Cannaday, spokeswoman for the Seminole County sheriff's office."

This training is probably why the gun stayed in the holster as long as it did.

33 posted on 03/28/2012 10:03:36 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: wardaddy

My late father’s generation, the people who went through the depression and fought World War II and Korea, would’ve already raised up and swatted this down if they were in their prime and not mostly gone.

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


34 posted on 03/28/2012 10:04:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: turn_to

Cell phones are not “bulky” and also not “metal”. Also, it says no where that the phone was in his pocket. He’d been using it quite a bit...most likely it was in his hand and he started dialing the number.

Sorry...but that dog don’t hunt.

Trayvon knocked Zimmerman down...he should have left it at that and got the heck out. But he didn’t. He proceeded to beat Zimmerman severly, hitting him in the face and then bashing his head against the ground.

As a result, he got shot and killed. Tragic for a young man’s life to end like that...but I would have done the same thing at that point.

Trayvon initiated violence, then stepped it up to endanger Zimmerman’s life.

Zimmerman’s condition as described by the police and the witnesses matches what he said happened. I believe now that Zimmerman defended himself, and did so legally.

It’s time Florida’s elected officials grow a pair and send the State Troopers to either evict the New Black Panther’s from the State or arrest them for conspiracy to commit kidnapping and assault, if not murder.

This is all genned up race baiting and divisiveness to destract the public away from Obama’s abysmal record as President.
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America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

The Man who Despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm


35 posted on 03/28/2012 10:06:24 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: caww

Obama has been loosing the black vote...and he’s a master at knowing how to push their buttons and get them rallied....all democrates do that...this is nothing new. Obamas hurting the black working community very much as well as students in the area of jobs and the like. Not to mention gas prices, food etc.

The Obamamachine is pushing this whole affair....along with the media pimping whatever it takes to make this a racial issue and to divert the election away from obamas failures and more importantly the crap he’s pulling off currently.

Look what he’s planning on doing with Russia....this was gigantic, it should heave been played on every network and panel discussions with it for weeks.... and yet everyones completely focused on this race thingy....made to order.


Exactly.

Blacks should be extremely upset with this evil man called 0bama.


36 posted on 03/28/2012 10:07:58 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: turn_to

I was at I Corps (ROK/US) Group (a field army) G-2 at Camp Red Cloud 1978-79 and 102nd MI Bn., 2nd Infantry Division (both Camp Hovey and Camp Casey) 1981-82. I’m guessing things have changed a LOT since I got on that airplane the last time.


37 posted on 03/28/2012 10:09:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was on CRC during my first tour, I’m working at Camp Casey now. No, you wouldn’t recognize it! LOL I was only gone a couple of years and I couldn’t recognize it because it’s changing and growing so fast!


38 posted on 03/28/2012 10:13:20 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: wardaddy
The real question has alwwys been why does white America allow itself to be bullied by minorities?

Because we are kind and diplomatic and compassionate. This makes us easy to exploit, unfortunately.

39 posted on 03/28/2012 10:17:19 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When is anyone going to start a George Zimmerman is innocent site. Danger is generally based on an individuals perception. When George was getting his face bashed in by this youf he must have felt that his life was in danger. Shame on the liberal media for spinning this seventeen year old thug as a babyfaced innocent.


40 posted on 03/28/2012 10:21:41 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: turn_to

The only person who said he reached for any object was Zimmerman and his father relays that information here.

If he was reaching for his gun WHY would he or his father say anything about reaching for anything?

Are you daft?


41 posted on 03/28/2012 10:21:46 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: Jeff Head

He already has the black vote. This will bring out more whites and Hispanics against him and cost him the election because the evidence will be clear Zimmerman acted properly.


42 posted on 03/28/2012 10:21:52 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting angle by the father:

When the interviewer asked about Martin’s girlfriend, who said that he told her that he was being followed, Robert Zimmerman said he didn’t believe her.

He replied: “I don't believe she was on the phone with him, and I find it very strange with the publicity involved with this that all of the sudden, after three weeks, someone would remember that they were on the phone. I believe the FBI and others investigating this will find that that did not happen.”


43 posted on 03/28/2012 10:22:34 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He already has the black vote and the far-left white vote. Why do they need to stir the sh*t like this if they have them in their pocket?

He may have 95% of that voting block nailed down - no matter what - but the trick is to get them motivated to show up to the polls in November. If the Dems can motivate 70+% of this voting block to show up to the polls by waving a bloody shirt, as opposed to the normal 20% - expect them to wave the bloody shirt.
Race warfare and class warfare are the Dems tools to achieve their nefarious designs.

44 posted on 03/28/2012 10:23:02 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

Did the companies that make Newports and Thunderbird go out of business?


45 posted on 03/28/2012 10:24:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: wardaddy
“But wardaddy, it’s not about race” Sorry it is to them and that train long ago left the station The day decent whites reclaim their balls is the day we take our nation back And everyone including minorities will be the better for it

Wardaddy I agree and the events we seeing happening now confirm what you're saying.... "It is to them".

The question is will anything society does to "accommodate" their requests ever be enough....I don't think so....no matter how much equality is given and or shared it's just never going to end this idea of being "victims"....

Some have said this whole event has set things back considerably....well it's beginning to for me as I see masses of black people responding to the pipers

What do they want? This isn't about Martin....and this isn't about race....we've all seen events such as this in all races. So what to do they want?

IMO it looks like there are blacks who have broken away from the 70's mindset...they have risen above it all....joined society and are living life.

Then there are those who continue to live in the victim mode...never breaking out of that mold and thus any reason to cry racism is their cry.

I'm trying to understand but the more I hear them speak at these gatherings...and I am listening...the less I see of a desire to resolve differences....do they want to? I'm beginning to think not. Either they don't want to let go of the past, or they simply cannot....perhaps both.

It is very discouraging to see this happening....and frankly how this Martin thing continues I have less and less respect for whatever cause they think they have, and unfortunately am beginning to not care one way or the other.

46 posted on 03/28/2012 10:27:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: wardaddy

You go, Daddy.

I’ve been saying pretty much the same thing here on FR for years.


47 posted on 03/28/2012 10:31:13 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Yer way late.


48 posted on 03/28/2012 10:31:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: presently no screen name

I made a presumption. Maybe it was wrong. :)

Did he ever make that call? If not, it would be, according to his story, that Travyon had attacked. I guess I figure if the kid was going to attack and punch him in the nose, he was approaching him quickly.


49 posted on 03/28/2012 10:34:18 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: El Cid
Race warfare and class warfare are the Dems tools to achieve their nefarious designs.

Why? Do they not know there are other options or are they truly that hateful to continually use and abuse the black population, and the poor, in order to elevate themselves?

Worse...and far worse...are those who support them, who call themselves Democrates.? Are they not just as despicable for supporting them?

I don't see anything which is going to change the equation at all. Every election it looks more and more like a war of "good" against "evil" as they no longer hide their wickedness because it's become a society "norm"...and it looks like our guys are helping them for not taking stands. Are we truly that "done" in this nation?... I think it may very well be so.

50 posted on 03/28/2012 10:38:30 PM PDT by caww
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