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IRS Already Gearing Up for Health-Care Crackdown (more IRS intrusions on taxpayer privacy)
Fox Business News ^ | 03/30/2012 | Elizabeth MacDonald

Posted on 03/30/2012 6:37:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The rest of the country may be waiting for the U.S. Supreme Court to decide the fate of President Barack Obama’s health-care law, but the Internal Revenue Service is wasting no time.

It wants to add new agents to hunt down tax cheats and still plans to spend $303.5 million building a system to oversee the effects of the health law even though its future is unclear.

As for the new IRS workers, the Government Accountability Office said the total will be about 4,500, with nearly 4,000 (3,997) slated for enforcement.

On the $303.5 million for health care, the GAO said the IRS will “continue the development of new systems and modifications of existing systems required to support new tax credits,” as well as other IRS enforcement systems for health reform.

And that’s where the health reform law gets really tricky for taxpayers.

Nina E. Olson, who runs the Taxpayer Advocate Office {TAO}, a federal IRS overseer, has warned the new health law may require more IRS intrusions on taxpayer privacy, to determine whether individuals got appropriate health coverage, and whether small businesses provide “affordable” coverage, all of which is defined by the government.

That’s because the health-reform law’s individual mandate requires almost all legal residents of the United States to have “adequate” health-care coverage, as determined by the federal government. And it requires businesses of all sizes to provide “affordable” coverage as defined by the federal government.

Health reform’s insurance mandate says if you do not have “adequate” insurance, you’ll have to pay a fine as part of your tax return. If your business doesn’t provide “affordable” coverage, you’ll have to pay a fine to the IRS, too, as part of your tax return filing.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; govtabuse; healthcare; irs; obama; obamacare; obamacareirsagents; socialisthealthcare; taxes

1 posted on 03/30/2012 6:37:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Gonna be a lot of pink slips going out in June after SCOTUS kicks this stinker to the curb.


2 posted on 03/30/2012 6:40:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What will they do with those 4000 agents if SCOTUS scuttles the law?

Not lay them off, that’s for sure.


3 posted on 03/30/2012 6:40:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Government bow wows are almost impossible to fire.


4 posted on 03/30/2012 6:43:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Well Border Patrol could use some extra guys, especially with THAT kind of dedication.............


5 posted on 03/30/2012 6:43:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: SeekAndFind

Um...yeah. The IRS is collecting taxes on a law which may have already been overturned (just awaiting announcement and explanation).

Come announcement of verdict this summer, assuming a complete repeal verdict, will the IRS refund all monies collected under the vacated law?

Rhetorical question, of course. I’m sure the IRS has been ordered into high gear to confiscate every Obamacare penny they can.


6 posted on 03/30/2012 6:45:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: SeekAndFind
The IRS.......guilty to proven innocent.

One of the most un-American agencies to have ever been forced upon the citizens of this country.

7 posted on 03/30/2012 6:46:10 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SeekAndFind

As if we needed any more proof, 0bama’s purpose in POTUS life is to destroy the US. As the USSR was militarily outspent to its collapse, 0bama is accomplishing the same... only from within. Like REALLY within. Spending money that does nothing useful is part of the plan, and here is a perfect opportunity. Hundreds of million$ appropriated is license to spend it on nothing. Also, similar to the initial TARP crap and shovel ready jobs - there were none. Cash for Clunkers - appropriated taxes and, in that case, lots of cars - vanishes. Just money, now gone, with nobody accountable, and million$ of our hard-earned wealth gone *poof*.


8 posted on 03/30/2012 6:54:07 AM PDT by C210N (Mitt "Severe Etch-a-Sketch" Romney is the front-runner? Seriously??)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


9 posted on 03/30/2012 7:14:09 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: servantboy777
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

But, hey...it's only the Constitution.

Our "conservative" inillustrious House says and does nothing, again.

10 posted on 03/30/2012 7:17:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Red Badger

Build a giant State Department annex out in the far suburbs and put all 4000 of them out there manning the Canada desk.

(* idea stolen from a bad Michael Moore movie...)


11 posted on 03/30/2012 7:31:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
...bad Michael Moore Movie

Isn't that statement redundant?
12 posted on 03/30/2012 7:37:43 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
(* idea stolen from a bad Michael Moore movie...)

Is there any other kind?...........

13 posted on 03/30/2012 8:00:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You haven’t heard ? Google “healthcare warfare”


14 posted on 03/30/2012 8:12:50 AM PDT by Salgak
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“What will they do with those 4000 agents if SCOTUS scuttles the law?

Not lay them off, that’s for sure.”
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This is just the beginning. At warp speed, the Obama Adm will starting implementing as much of ObamaCare as they possibly can in the next 2 1/2 months to make it more difficult to unwind.

Meanwhile, they can do some reorganization in the IRS, and put several thousand agents to use investigating Republican office holders/candidates and conservative media/organizations.


15 posted on 03/30/2012 8:23:34 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance." - Continental Congress, 1776 "Declaration of Independence"
16 posted on 03/30/2012 8:39:51 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: SeekAndFind
As I've said, the USSC will NOT strike down the Un-Constitutional Obamacare; it's gone too far to un-do.

Billions are already spent on Beaurocracy, jobs, computers, etc., etc., to implement Obamacare, and they won't shit-can (which is what they SHOULD do) all the people, and cut off ALL spending for it, and remove the Un-Constitutional Czars that have been appointed, while they're at it.

It's a done-deal.

17 posted on 03/30/2012 8:44:16 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the Rupublicans won’t get rid of this sh*t, we will find a party that will.


18 posted on 03/30/2012 8:46:59 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Nope, these assholes will be hired by TSA.


19 posted on 03/30/2012 8:47:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

FairTax!

Replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS!


20 posted on 03/30/2012 9:03:27 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: SeekAndFind; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

FairTax!

Replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS!


21 posted on 03/30/2012 9:04:50 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Army Air Corps; Red Badger
...bad Michael Moore Movie

Isn't that statement redundant?

"Canadian Bacon" is a Michael Moore movie. I found it very funny.

22 posted on 03/30/2012 9:09:36 AM PDT by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: Taxman

RE: FairTax!

Replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS!

________________

Easier said than done. The fact is people LOVE the deductions and other loopholes they can exploit in our tax code. Heck, Herman Caine couldn’t even convince many FReepers to go with his 9-9-9 plan to slowly move towards a fair tax.


23 posted on 03/30/2012 9:22:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: servantboy777
One of the most un-American agencies to have ever been forced upon the citizens of this country.

Homegrown terrorists.

24 posted on 03/30/2012 9:46:47 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Taxman

Does your presidential candidate support the FairTax?


25 posted on 03/30/2012 9:52:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And remember in the health care bill it says IRS determines what a reasonable business expense is, not legislation, not tax court. We are screwed.


26 posted on 03/30/2012 9:55:40 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What happens if Obama just ignores the SCOTUS?


27 posted on 03/30/2012 10:20:34 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

The fine is pretty lame but if you already are insured AND they charge you the fine by accident it would add insult to injury,

The IRS already owned us before this so this doesnt shock me.


28 posted on 03/30/2012 10:24:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
If the Rupublicans won’t get rid of this sh*t, we will find a party that will.

From your keyboard to GOD's ears. This has got to be the line in the sand, the last straw, or whatever you want to call it.

29 posted on 03/30/2012 10:32:09 AM PDT by Marathoner (2 goals this year: (1) S##tcan Obamacare; (2) S##tcan Obama)
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To: sickoflibs

A Russian transplant in L.A. told me

” IRS vorse than KGB!!


30 posted on 03/30/2012 10:33:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: All

Rush is talking about this now.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 10:33:49 AM PDT by Marathoner (2 goals this year: (1) S##tcan Obamacare; (2) S##tcan Obama)
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To: thouworm

” Meanwhile, they can do some reorganization in the IRS, and put several thousand agents to use investigating Republican office holders/candidates and conservative media/organizations.”

Already being done....


32 posted on 03/30/2012 10:35:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: unixfox

IRS = Homegrown terrorists.

Ded-gummit, why didn’t I think of that. Good one!


33 posted on 03/30/2012 11:14:28 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Taxman; All

“abolish the IRS!”

Of course, we need more CONSERVATIVES elected, in order to do that, so let’s work hard on getting as many CONSERVATIVES elected, as possible, in 2012.


34 posted on 03/30/2012 11:18:15 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I seem to remember that the GOP has control of the appropriations via the House. I bet our GOP stripped out funds for all those IRS agents. (sarc on)


35 posted on 03/30/2012 11:35:54 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: SeekAndFind

The Progressive desire for a European economy demands a tax enforcement regime also like Europes.


36 posted on 03/30/2012 11:59:42 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Sun

We must all be “All in!” in 2012.

Whatever it takes to elect conservatives, we must do!


37 posted on 03/30/2012 6:45:16 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: traditional1
...it's gone too far to un-do. Billions are already spent on Beaurocracy, jobs, computers, etc., etc., to implement Obamacare,...

Ever end up with a 'lemon'? At some point you quit spending money on the darned thing and go get a reliable car.

Pouring money down a gopher hole isn't likely to imporve the result--better to cut our losses and ditch that mess.

38 posted on 03/31/2012 4:02:55 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SeekAndFind

The entire DC establishment has spent 30 years salivating in anticipation of this bill. They aren’t about to let 9 individuals muck it all up for them.


39 posted on 03/31/2012 4:07:15 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: ctdonath2

The IRS will not begin collecting penalties until spring of 2015 when tax filing for the 2014 tax year, since the mandate doesn’t take effect until the 2014 tax year.

So these extra agents and systems will never exist if the entire law is squashed this June.


40 posted on 04/01/2012 1:43:06 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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