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President Clinton Hopes Trayvon Martin Case Leads to Reappraisal of 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
ABC ^ | April 2, 2012 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 04/02/2012 10:30:24 AM PDT by bgill

Former President Bill Clinton said the "tragedy" of the killing of Trayvon Martin should cause a re-thinking of the "Stand Your Ground" law. "There are different stories being told," the former president said, "so the first thing I have to say is that it's important to find out the facts."

Clinton continued "but to me, beyond the incredible personal tragedy- this young man was not armed, he clearly presented no threat to anybody's life

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; clinton; democrats; liberalfascism; trayvon; trayvonmartin
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To: bgill

Tell it to Vince Foster Bubba, tell it to Vince Foster.

Former Presidents need to learn to sit down and shut-up. President Bush seems to be the only one who has class and intelligence enough to know what “former” means.


21 posted on 04/02/2012 10:59:11 AM PDT by mardi59 ( Go Newt!!)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

If Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, I don’t see that stand your ground has anything to do with it. Disoriented from blows to the nose and head with someone on top you saying “Now you’re gonna die”? There was no means of retreat. If that is what went down, Zimmerman’s only choice was to fight him off any way he could.


22 posted on 04/02/2012 11:00:16 AM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: bgill

“this young man was not armed, he clearly presented no threat to anybody’s life”

Unless it would be the armed neighborhood watch captain that Martin sucker punched, then continued beating and tried to take his concealed carry weapon.

But other than just that one guy , yeah. Bill is right.


23 posted on 04/02/2012 11:00:25 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Nateman
What’s the problem with the law? One less vicious punk on the streets. Sounds like it worked fine to me.

I'll buy that!

24 posted on 04/02/2012 11:06:29 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: BamaDi

Do we know absolutely that he was “absolutely” unarmed (no knife??) AND not strung out on drugs OR drunker than a skunk???


25 posted on 04/02/2012 11:09:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: JTHomes

re: “If Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, I don’t see that stand your ground has anything to do with it. Disoriented from blows to the nose and head with someone on top you saying “Now you’re gonna die”? There was no means of retreat. If that is what went down, Zimmerman’s only choice was to fight him off any way he could.”

I completely agree with you that this case, in reality, has nothing to do with “stand your ground” - I just think the liberals are trying to use this to turn public opinion against right to carry and stand your ground laws. I think this is the left’s true target - not the racial thing (although they’ll use it to their advantage, too).


26 posted on 04/02/2012 11:09:43 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Bubba....STATES RIGHTS......MYOB


27 posted on 04/02/2012 11:10:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: bgill
"There are different stories being told," the former president said, "so the first thing I have to say is that it's important to find out the facts." Clinton continued "but to me, beyond the incredible personal tragedy- this young man was not armed, he clearly presented no threat to anybody's life

Blowjobbilly starts by saying we don't know the facts...so let me give you my opinion...lil' Trayvon presented no threat, so that racist white, spic bastard...

28 posted on 04/02/2012 11:14:08 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: UCANSEE2
of the 15,000 murders in the US each year , less than half are committed with guns . Black on Black murder using guns is the overwealmng statistic and #1 cause of death for Black youth , so why is this the priority

when is the indictment on Spike Lee and the Black Panthers for terrorist solicitaion of murder for hire coming down ? .....

waiting ......waiting ....waiting for justice, obviously justice and Law enforcement has failed , time to arm thyself

29 posted on 04/02/2012 11:14:30 AM PDT by KTM rider
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To: UCANSEE2

Whether Martin was armed or not does not matter. A threat to one’s life can be present without a gun. An ‘unarmed’ MMA kickboxer IS a threat to someone’s life as much as a gun is.
A 98 pound weakling might have only one chance to save his/her life through the use of deadly force with a firearm against such a threat. And that would be before any blows are landed, because by that time it would be too late.


31 posted on 04/02/2012 11:15:10 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


32 posted on 04/02/2012 11:24:15 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: bgill; SpinnerWebb
he clearly presented no threat to anybody's life

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Yo, Slick, buy a vowel.

A few years ago Trevon Martin might have been helping Barry bring you your coffee, but that was then. In real life he was smashing the back of Mr. Zimmermans's head on the sidewalk.

33 posted on 04/02/2012 11:24:51 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Wildbill22

As liberal as the state of Washington is, it has reasonable gun laws. You can use deadly force if necessary to stop a felony anywhere that you might be, and whoever it may be against.

If some guy is trying to steal a lady’s purse you can shoot him if he doesn’t stop. Although I imagine as soon as you pulled a weapon he would stop.


34 posted on 04/02/2012 11:26:23 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: JTHomes
If Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, I don’t see that stand your ground has anything to do with it. Disoriented from blows to the nose and head with someone on top you saying “Now you’re gonna die”? There was no means of retreat. If that is what went down, Zimmerman’s only choice was to fight him off any way he could.

I don't understand the constant reference to the stand your ground law either. It just doesn't seem to apply in this case. It seems at this point that it was basic and simple self defense due to fear of serious injury or death from beating.
35 posted on 04/02/2012 11:27:44 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: JTHomes

Agreed, this would be self defense anywhere.


36 posted on 04/02/2012 11:31:48 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: Sacajaweau
"Do we know absolutely that he was “absolutely” unarmed (no knife??) AND not strung out on drugs OR drunker than a skunk??? "

about 1/3 of murders are blunt force trauma, soon congress will feel the need to pass a helmet law requiring all non-blacks to wear helmets in public at all times in order to qualify for Obamacare coverage

37 posted on 04/02/2012 11:33:47 AM PDT by KTM rider
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To: bgill

this young man was not armed...

Fists of a younger, agressive assailant can be quite dangerous and even deadly. Just ask the vicims of the black community's knock-out game.

38 posted on 04/02/2012 11:40:13 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: StAnDeliver
If this has been handed off to Bubba, that means Axelrot is trying to keep Bobo as far away from it as he can.

I was just thinking the same thing! Why would they trot this lying weasel out to spout off about this crap, when they have the President making statements?

Then it hit me! Story is falling apart, and they need to derail this train before it hits Obama square in the A$$!
39 posted on 04/02/2012 11:40:38 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: bgill

The entire Democrat Party is misreading this situation SOOOOOOO badly.

Why do you suppose Charles Bronson became a huge international movie star? (hint: it was not his prowess as a thespian nor his good looks)

It’s because the vast majority identified with his character, given the times they were living in.

The Dems are really setting a bomb to go off in their faces here.


40 posted on 04/02/2012 12:03:00 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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