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EPA moves closer to OK of 15 percent ethanol gasoline
Fuel Fix ^ | April 2, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/03/2012 5:03:01 AM PDT by thackney

The federal government announced Monday it has taken a step toward wide distribution of gasoline mixed with 15 percent ethanol by allowing manufacturers to register as suppliers.

While the EPA is moving the process forward by allowing the registration, E15 still must clear another set of federal tests and become a registered fuel in individual states. Ethanol makers then must convince petroleum marketers to sell it at gas stations.

Most ethanol fuel sold for passenger cars and pickups today is 10 percent ethanol and 90 percent gas. The new blend that boosts ethanol to 15 percent would only be sold for use in 2001 and newer vehicles.

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigcorn; e15; energy; ethanol; gasoline; gasprices; petrol
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To: MarkL

Why would I EVER buy a Volt?

Electricity rates are due to *skyrocket.*
The dang car costs too much.


41 posted on 04/03/2012 7:29:33 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

General aviation/local airport


42 posted on 04/03/2012 7:33:19 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: thackney
"...The new blend that boosts ethanol to 15 percent would only be sold for use in 2001 and newer vehicles."

I beg to differ. My 2006 Mazda and my wife's 2011 Ford Escape hybrid both clearly state in the owners manual that no more than 10% ethanol blends can be used. On my wife's Ford there is even a warning on the gasoline filler that says not add more than 10% ethanol blends. The only vehicles where it might be safe to use a 15% ethanol blend are those with flex-fuel designation. If this 15% ethanol crap is foisted on the public who will pay for the damages caused to engines and fuel systems or the warranties voided by its use?

43 posted on 04/03/2012 7:33:59 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: thackney
That's interesting thanks. I assume oxygenated fuels means ethanol only at the pump. I thought I heard Oregon was going that way up there. Really upsetting when you know what it does to some engines. I have $5k+ outboard I'd just as soon not destroy. The environmentalists are making life unlivable, but that's probably the intention.
44 posted on 04/03/2012 7:51:30 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: thackney

I think this is about generating more taxes.

Since my vehicle will get less miles per gallon, then I will need to buy more gallons of gas and which means I pay more taxes on every additional gallon of engine damaging ethanol blend gas they push.


45 posted on 04/03/2012 7:52:40 AM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: throwback
. I assume oxygenated fuels means ethanol only at the pump.

In some area, MTBE is still used.

46 posted on 04/03/2012 8:26:52 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m not a fan of this government mandate crap, but to some extent you have it wrong... small amounts of ethanol in moderation help keep intake and exhaust valves clean, and in carbureted engines allow you to run advanced timing with less risk of detonation. the numbers they’re talking about scare me though, and still a no go for small engines like mowers...


47 posted on 04/04/2012 9:06:34 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: MarkL

Obama’s a jerk. Even when he wasn’t in politics he never had to live in the real world like you or i because he had everything handed to him on a silver platter pretty much his whole life, all the while being force fed, and later force feeding others, socialism and environmentalism.

Why yes, Mr. President, I do drive an “old beater.” Two actually. Thanks to your recession and your policies and gas prices being what they are, I let the wife have the nice car (a pre-bailout 06 Lucerne), while I alternate between my papaw’s old 86 Caprice and my hot rod Olds Cutlass. Yeah can’t afford a 2012/2013 car like the limo liberal set.. AND IF YOUR 15% ETHANOL GAS BLOWS ANY OF MY ENGINES UP, I WILL SUE THE CRAP OUT OF THE EPA... Have a nice day Mr. President...


48 posted on 04/04/2012 9:22:55 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: Schwaeky
but to some extent you have it wrong...

Yeah, I don't think so. This is Maine, just like WA, when it isn't raining...it's foggy. The alcohol draws water out of the humid air which goes into the underground tanks at gas stations as you pump out the gas. They don't have driers on the tank vents.

small amounts of ethanol in moderation help keep intake and exhaust valves clean, and in carbureted engines allow you to run advanced timing with less risk of detonation.

So does water...and it's free.

the numbers they’re talking about scare me though

10 and 15% is no small amount, in a wet climate. Plus it noticably lowers your mileage, and at 4 bucks a gallon...that sucks.

and still a no go for small engines like mowers...

That's the least of our problems...I haven't had a bit of trouble with small engines or running problems on any equipment. It doesn't hurt to run a little diesel in the gas.

49 posted on 04/04/2012 10:12:47 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Nervous Tick
“I wonder if aviation gas is similarly free of ethanol.”

Avgas is 120 octane leaded gasoline without alcohol.

It's not legal for them to sell it to you in a can, only pumped into your aircraft tank.

If you know someone with an airplane you might be able to get them to drain some out for you!

50 posted on 04/04/2012 10:18:19 PM PDT by dalereed
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