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Rise in justifiable homicides linked to weak gun control laws
guardian.co.uk ^ | 5 April, 2012 | Harry J Enten, Gabriel Dance and Karen McVeigh

Posted on 04/05/2012 7:58:27 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: smokingfrog
It took 3 geniuses to write this?

Harry is trying hard to get laid with either Gabriel or Karen. Leftists have the same proclivities as Bonobo Chimps.

41 posted on 04/05/2012 11:37:16 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The more thugs we shoot the less thugs there will be. I don’t see a problem!

You don't see anything wrong with not being able to shoot the apologists?

42 posted on 04/05/2012 11:44:01 PM PDT by papertyger (The Unwritten Beatitude: Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be broken.)
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To: marktwain
So, the idiots at the Guardian would prefer that the criminals do the killing, instead of normal Americans defending themselves and their families.

That's a bizarre and wrongheaded argument to make on the Guardian's part.

To me, the only tragedy is that so many normal citizens have had to defend themselves and their families from feral criminals who do not fear breaking into a man's home or mugging citizens on the streets.

It is evident that the idiots at the Guardian would rather see Americans burdened with the same tragic situation as in Britain, where home invasions and street robberies are common, and the criminals rarely punished.

If these criminals would stop being violent predators, they would stop dying.

43 posted on 04/06/2012 2:39:11 AM PDT by snowsislander (Gingrich 2012.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Thanks, I was beginning to feel lonely. The first reports mentioned Zimmerman’s gun (semiautomatic) as recovered by the police, having a full magazine and an empty shell case in the chamber. The only way I could see that happening is Martin grabbing the gun with his left hand over the slide while he tried to wrestle the gun from Zimmerman. If Zimmerman had his finger in the trigger guard and Martin yanked the gun back towards his chest, it is probable that he in fact shot himself in the chest. The gun fired while he was holding the slide in place which prevented the empty from being ejected and a live round from being loaded into the chamber.

It would be very interesting to see if Martin had nitrate residue on his left palm and forearm. . . .
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While I wonder about the powder residue and agree with your probable assessment, the powder residue does not prove anything accept that what Zimmeran said COULD have happened. Martin could have just as well been trying to keep Zimmerman from shooting him and the evidence results would be the same.


44 posted on 04/06/2012 6:13:54 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: marktwain

And WE bailed THIS DUMBASS Inbred “Country”s’ ASS out twice in the 20th Century/ We should have let the Kaiser and/or the Nazis have this POS “Country” then NUKED ALL OF THEM!


45 posted on 04/06/2012 7:16:17 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: marktwain

IOW before laws were corrected, innocent people were being charged. This is why stand your ground laws have prohibitions against an arrest.

The artible fails to mention how this has neutered the tort lawyers who sued on these. Remember this has also helped with our home liability insurances.


46 posted on 04/06/2012 7:19:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: marktwain

Sheesh...you’d think the Feds would have enough common sense to not want their tax paying citizens slaughtered and the parasites living on the dole in jail?!!!!!

Or is it that the Dems see potential voters dying?


47 posted on 04/06/2012 7:32:44 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: JAKraig
Martin could have just as well been trying to keep Zimmerman from shooting him and the evidence results would be the same.

Perhaps, however I would think that if Martin was trying to block the pistol he would have pushed it sideways to deflect the point of aim. Of course then the gun would have cycled and the spent shell casing ejected. He would have done better to push back on the slide, taking it out of battery, as that would keep the gun from firing. In which case the shell in the chamber would still be live as no shot occurred. Odds are that he had his hand gripping the slide (which kept it from cycling properly) and was trying to pull it out of Zimmerman's hand. Bad idea! Given that either man could have fired the gun we will never know for certain, even Zimmerman can't know for sure.

I like the irony of him shooting himself, it makes a strong point about gang bangers (being relatively low wattage...).

Regards,
GtG

48 posted on 04/06/2012 9:23:21 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: marktwain

Debunking the stand your ground myth
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2867480/posts

good thing the “Guardian” isn’t guarding our Constitution.


49 posted on 04/06/2012 10:31:20 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: marktwain

I know we talked about this - but took me a while to get what the words were saying. OK we have states where you can get firearms easily and crime is down - and they say that is a bad thing - what a screwed mess.


50 posted on 04/08/2012 3:57:58 PM PDT by Tubac414 (Just want to ride my Motorcycle)
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