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To: caww

Hey, idiot!

I am a Korean ‘War’ veteran who flew fighter planes!

Anyone who has flown knows that there is much that the pilot can do to avoid residencial neighborhoods.

Now, clear off my case!


123 posted on 04/06/2012 1:41:30 PM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: caww; IbJensen
Hey, idiot!

I am a Korean ‘War’ veteran who flew fighter planes!

Anyone who has flown knows that there is much that the pilot can do to avoid residencial neighborhoods.

Now, clear off my case!

With all due respect for your service, you obviously don’t know much about the Virginia Beach area. I had a friend who was stationed there and I visited there more than a few times and these apartments are very close to the air base and it is a densely populated area.

When things go suddenly wrong and very bad in a low flying aircraft, sometimes there is not a whole lot a pilot can do. It appears the pilot did all that he could to avoid hitting the residential buildings but sometimes bad stuff happens. Fortunately in this case, it seems that casualties and injuries are low.

127 posted on 04/06/2012 2:03:06 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: IbJensen
Anyone who has flown knows that there is much that the pilot can do to avoid residencial neighborhoods.

In this case there is no way too avoid such. It is surrounded. The base was built for WW2 in about 1942 out in the boonies. Virginia Beach wasn't yet a city but a small town and population was low. The 1940 census put the population of Virginia Beach which would not have included Oceana at roughly 20,000. Now it is 450,000 plus. There is not one air base in the Hampton Roads Operational area which is approachable without crossing significat population close in.

Hampton Roads Operation Area is primarly a defense oriented city. Needless to say when one lives in such an area there is assumed risk that comes with it. Either that move about 30 miles south and drive in every day to work.

Look on a map at Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Hampton, Newport News, and tell me where the boonies are at. The area in question is heavilly populated and the bases were built before the sprawl began. The only place to crash without hitting something is the water and even then IF you even make it there you still stand the chance of hitting people on incoming or out going ships etc as it is a busy port.

134 posted on 04/06/2012 3:09:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: IbJensen
I don't believe you. If you were you would have assessed the situation long before making the careless statement about one of our Military Pilots.

The take off was one mile and half from the crash....with a wing ablaze, at jet speed, and disengaged from the plane... one would assume you'd understand, more than others, the position of the plane as well as the pilot...if you were truly a pilot.

On the other hand if you are....then you should have known better then to make a judgement call without the facts. So I say again concerning you're original remark....idiot.

149 posted on 04/06/2012 4:41:44 PM PDT by caww
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