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Eric Holder's Letter to the Court Misses Point
Yahoo ^ | 4/05/12 | Tara Dodrill

Posted on 04/06/2012 11:30:41 AM PDT by Libloather

Eric Holder's Letter to the Court Misses Point
By Tara Dodrill | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 18 hrs ago

The fact that President Barack Obama was once a constitutional law professor and yet has virtually no understanding or respect for the nation's founding document is mind-boggling.

His comments earlier this week warning the court not to engage in judicial activism was nothing more than hubris. The angry judges demanded a response from Attorney General Eric Holder to determine if the Obama administration believes the court has the power to overturn laws. The controversial attorney general finally drafted the mandated three-page response, but the damage to the administration's reputation was already done, says Fox News.

**SNIP**

Although Holder's letter stated that the court's power is "beyond dispute," he also wrote that laws passed by Congress are "presumptively constitutional," Fox News reports.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commiecare; court; holder; letter
once a constitutional law professor

That's a myth. Hussein's transcripts would prove otherwise.

1 posted on 04/06/2012 11:30:50 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

once a constitutional law professor

That’s a myth. Hussein’s transcripts would prove otherwise.

yes ,please prove it ,hearsay not going to cut it


2 posted on 04/06/2012 11:50:10 AM PDT by molson209
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To: Libloather
"...he also wrote that laws passed by Congress are "presumptively constitutional," Fox News reports."

Yet more proof that this drooling idiot shouldn't be allowed to practice law, let alone occupy the office of the AG of the United States.

Quick.....where's that video clip of the moronic black "congressman" chortling about how they don't consider the Constitution whatsoever when they pass laws......

3 posted on 04/06/2012 11:50:10 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Libloather

Color me shocked!


4 posted on 04/06/2012 11:50:40 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...but I love the United States of America.)
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To: molson209

What do you want proven, that he was not a professor or that his transcripts would prove otherwise?


5 posted on 04/06/2012 11:56:16 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Libloather
“..Obama was once a constitutional law professor ..”

My recollection is that during the 2008 campaign some group was trying to find someone, anyone who had ever been in an Obama law school class, even to the point of offering a reward of some kind. No one ever stepped forward.

6 posted on 04/06/2012 11:57:02 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: RightOnline

Not the one I was talking about.........but found these two easily enough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IosVnGgkI9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7LpE6KX4jA


7 posted on 04/06/2012 11:57:12 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Libloather
OBAMA HOLDER ACTIVISM, OBAMA HOLDER
8 posted on 04/06/2012 12:02:18 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: Libloather; LucyT; STARWISE; maggief; Liz; onyx; MinuteGal

Even Ann C said last night she wants to see BO’s college transcripts.

People with law background are shaking their heads throughout the country.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 12:04:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Libloather

Can anybody find out for certain exactly what classes Mr. Obama taught at Chicago? Can we locate the law school’s lists of classes and the instructors for each class for the years Mr. Obama claims to have been an instructor?


10 posted on 04/06/2012 12:06:28 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: Libloather

Reading the letter from DOJ is enlightening. Basically it says SCOTUS can overturn laws, but they shouldn’t. And, btw, what Obama said was fine. Arrogant, offensive... Look for your own descriptor.


11 posted on 04/06/2012 12:08:53 PM PDT by spaced
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To: elpadre

Prof. Thom Lambert of the University of Missouri Law School studied under Obama at the University of Chicago. He wrote a rather scathing article on how embarrassing Obama’s ignorance of the Constitution is.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/04/Former-Obama-Student-Obamas-Ignorance-of-Constitution-Embarrassing


12 posted on 04/06/2012 12:11:22 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: molson209
yes ,please prove it ,hearsay not going to cut it

A few others hold that opinion:

From Ann Barnhardt’s site (http://barnhardt.biz/):

Obama Didn't Write His Own Course Syllabus.
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 27, AD 2012 8:20 PM MST

Breitbart.com published Obama’s University of Chicago “Constitutional Law” course syllabus a couple of weeks ago.
HERE IT IS (http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/2008OBAMA_LAW/Obama_CoursePk.pdf)

Guys, Obama didn't even write his own syllabus. The prose is sophisticated, the grammar is flawless, and the punctuation is good - heck, there are several semicolons used, and used correctly. In other words, the syllabus is everything that every other sample of genuine Obama-written prose is not. It isn't the same voice. It isn't the same author. Period.

Every sample of genuine Obama-written prose in existence is HORRIFIC in terms of prose, grammar and punctuation. Agonizingly horrific. Please see Jack Cashill’s body of work, including several new pieces at AmericanThinker.com .

Look at the course structure itself. Obama only had to bluff his way through four actual class periods, with most of those class periods consisting of student discussion. Students were explicitly graded on their participation in these four class sessions. The other six sessions were “small group project” presentations by the students. Obama wouldn't have to say or do anything in those class periods except play the part of the “wise professor.” Total scammage.

I think Obama was (and is) so stupid, and such a fraud that he had to have someone else prepare his course for him, including what little bit of lecture he delivered in those four class sessions.

Who might have prepared a course syllabus and light lecture notes on constitutional race issues with an emphasis toward education and race?

Bernardine Dohrn. As in Bill Ayers’ wife.

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Given what has come from the oval orafice the last three years, I lean toward Ann's and Brietbart.com’s opinion.

13 posted on 04/06/2012 12:17:41 PM PDT by plsjr (<>< ... HIS will be done! (http://NewSpring.cc/webservice - Biblical Nourishment))
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To: Libloather

He was trained at Harvard, therefore fully indoctrinated in the various critical schools of legal analysis. Postmodern, secular, and totally lacking a stable concept of truth, it is a perfect political tool for a gifted liar. Under such a worldview, there are no lies, only things you have to say and do to create the reality you want. Under such a worldview, there is no place for a static document like the Constitution, or the Bible, or any other supposed textual authority. They are all “just words,” mere expendable bullets in the war to create utopia. For those who actually understand how law is taught at Harvard and the other big name schools, there is no surprise in what we are seeing here. It is the designed path. It is not ignorance. It is premeditated rebellion.


14 posted on 04/06/2012 12:18:47 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: elpadre

At least one of his students has come forward to clarify that Obama taught a class on the 14th Amendment. Apparently, it wasn’t a memorable class.


15 posted on 04/06/2012 12:20:58 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Springfield Reformer

Catholic law schools are a step back, but definitely positivistic in their approach.


16 posted on 04/06/2012 12:28:53 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: pallis

Here’s a recent piece about both the Obamas with respect to their law licenses.

“As the hollow Obama myth continues to unravel -and any asking relevant questions are still dismissed as ‘fringe’ kooks by the White House/MSM- just forget for a minute the birth certificate, gangster pals, and unexplained disappearances of those who happen to get-in-the-way...

Here’s a refresher on yet another Obama background cover-up episode, the sort that makes it impossible to take his word on anything: are you aware that the former editor of the Harvard Law Revue in reality lost his license to practice law because he lied on the application...?

If that’s not bad enough, ‘lawyer’ Michelle Obama’s last place of employment -a fake, mafia/union-style ‘no work’ position as ‘legal counsel’ for the University of Chicago hospitals at an inflated salary (allegedly a payback for Barack’s obtaining them a government grant)- would also require a legal license... or so you’d think: seems Moo-chelle was taking- in $300K+/year while not qualified to practice law either. Interestingly, the job no longer even exists.

Why don’t the Obamas -touted as brilliant minds/teachers- have their law licenses? Seems they where forced to cough them up, in Barack’s case to avoid charges for false statements i.e. he had ‘no prior aliases’, among other things.

For those not familiar with the intricacies of the Bar Association, a “Voluntary Surrender” of one’s license is not something where you just forget to renew it. No, a “Voluntary Surrender” is something you do when you’ve been accused of something, and you ‘voluntarily surrender’ your license five seconds before the state suspends you.

Michelle Obama also ‘voluntarily surrendered’ her law license in 1993. The search engine linked above has blocked all info on ‘disciplinary action’, so we may never know the truth as to why.

And Barack Obama was nothing like the legal scholar he’s purported to have been: former students have recently come out as ‘shocked’ at their former teacher’s ignorance of the US Constitution, but that just goes to show you that a ‘senior lecturer’ is one thing, a fully ranked law professor is entirely another: and Barack Obama was NOT a Constitutional Law Professor at the University of Chicago- period.

Yes, the University of Chicago released a statement in March 2008 saying Sen. Obama (D-Ill.) “served as a professor” in the law school. In reality, that is a title Obama -who only taught courses there part-time- never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed in 2008. “He did not hold the title of Professor of Law,” said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an Assistant Dean for Communications and Lecturer in Law at the University of Chicago School of Law.

According to the the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law, Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn’t even considered. But soon afterward, the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. They said he didn’t have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor... and barely an adjunct.

The other (real) professors ‘hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool.’

Another Chicago Law professor said that Obama ‘had the lowest intellectual capacity in the building’. The same prof expressed serious doubt as to whether BHO was ever legitimately an editor on the Harvard Law Review, because if he was, he would be the first and only editor of an Ivy League law review to never be published while in school (publication is a standard prerequisite for the position).

Perhaps this all helps to explain then the way that the former ‘Constitutional Senior Lecturer’ cited the U.S. Constitution during his most recent State of the Union Address. Unfortunately, the quote he cited was from the Declaration of Independence ....
not the Constitution .

Obama said: “We find unity in our incredible diversity, drawing on the promise enshrined in our Constitution: the notion that we are all created equal.”

Uh, btw Mr. President... those promises are not a ‘notion’... the Founding Fathers said they are ‘unalienable rights- BIG difference. And the document you quoted form was actually
The Declaration of Independence:

‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’

And this is the same guy who lectured the Supreme Court just moments later?

Did this fraud ever even graduate from Harvard...?”


17 posted on 04/06/2012 12:32:45 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Libloather
he also wrote that laws passed by Congress are "presumptively constitutional,"

If that was true, why would we need a Supreme Court to review the laws? They think we're all stupid and they are 30% correct.

18 posted on 04/06/2012 12:34:13 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: vette6387

Two points. Yes, you can just voluntary suspend your use of your law license, and that by itself implies no wrongdoing. You might wish to avoid the responsibilities of an active license, such as financial or ethical ambiguities that could arise during your run for political office. Or maybe you just want to go bird watching for a year. Who knows. Point is, its easy to opt out for unspectacular reasons, and without better documentation on exactly why it happened, you can infer almost nothing from the fact that it did happen. I’m still asking where’s the beef on that one.

As for not getting published on LR, yes, that’s odd. I wasn’t even editor in chief, and I got published. The editor is supposed to be the real hotshot, the person who not only is super smart, but knows how to translate that intellect into well written, expert legal analysis. Furthermore, that’s why you want to be editor in chief, to get the recognition you deserve for being the very best. If he didn’t publish, he couldn’t write, barring some unusual circumstance. Definitely raises a red flag. Pun intended.


19 posted on 04/06/2012 1:11:06 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: hoosiermama; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; ...
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Article and comments, esp # 17.

Thanks, h-m.

20 posted on 04/06/2012 1:27:19 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: vette6387
When freepers first looked into the lost license, It was noted that they time from Michelle's graduation and when the license suspended would be about the same amount of time that would encompass her taking the law exams, failing,waiting to retake, fail again etc. etc. etc.

You can go to college using Affirmative Action. While in college AA provides tutors etc to help you graduate. BUT AA will not help you pass the bar exam.

Just a thought.

21 posted on 04/06/2012 1:31:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Libloather

a law that congress and the people who introduced didnt even read it and know what was in it it is presumed Constitutional? BS BS BS...


22 posted on 04/06/2012 1:34:02 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: molson209; Libloather; FrankR

$100 contribution to the RNC if they’d make themselves useful - for once - and uncover and release Obama law school Transcripts.

The ‘Rats would have Herman-Cained Obama’s college transcript-coverup and “secrecy” LONG ago - if he were an R not a D.

Get on it RNC we want to see leaked transcripts — by MONDAY.


23 posted on 04/06/2012 2:28:51 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: vette6387

Thanks for the info. I had cut and pasted quite a bit of information on Ovomit’s and Mrs. Ovomit’s lack luster law careers, and the details of how they lost their licenses, but I think it was lost during my last hard drive upgrade. ...If this clown ran as a Republican, he would be crucified by the left’s media.


24 posted on 04/06/2012 2:34:34 PM PDT by pallis
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To: plsjr

he obviously didn’t write that syllabus...

there’s no mention of killing babies that might live through a late term abortion...he wouldn’t miss a chance of including that.... /s


25 posted on 04/06/2012 3:04:44 PM PDT by bitt (Ayn Rand “Honest people are never touchy about the matter of being trusted.”)
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To: vette6387

BTTT!


26 posted on 04/06/2012 5:37:41 PM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama is weak, and is a worse human being than F.D.R., on multiple levels.)
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To: rolling_stone

a law that congress and the people who introduced didnt even read it and know what was in it it is presumed Constitutional? BS BS BS...
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I wouldn’t have read it either ,, no point to it as everything is “as the secretary will determine...” ,, there’s no “there” there to judge anything ... and as it is as solid as jello it cannot be presumed to be anything...


27 posted on 04/06/2012 6:15:25 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: pallis
Ovomit’s and Mrs. Ovomit’s lack luster law careers

Oh, I don't know .... I'd imagine that Ovomit, being of counsel to the ACORN people in the New York redlining case, was at least able to pay back his law-school student loans (unless he was on a full-ticket ride from Saudi .... in which case it was all gravy, unless he tipped-out to the Umma in gratitude). And then there was the Shirley Sherrod black-farmer lawsuitfraud, in which he had to have cleaned up very nicely (and if he was smart, smuggled a couple of mill down to Vonaire or Grand Cayman).

So I should think his law degree was an afterthought after his score, esp. considering that he was being groomed for Great Things.

28 posted on 04/06/2012 7:45:44 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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