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To: the scotsman

This is often considered a racist question and should not be. It is easily observable and should be addressed. It is nothing but tragic that such a large percentage of blacks (at least American blacks) don’t swim - it is horrible how many more drownings they endure, and I don’t understand the reason for it.

It seems to me it can’t be helped until it is acknowledged, and there is nothing racist about it.


2 posted on 04/07/2012 2:45:40 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

I used to hear why blacks don`t swim is they don`t float

very well....whatever

Been donating blood for 30 years or so,Seen about 5 blacks

donating in that time span.Never saw a black doing Apheresis

25 gallon donor here


37 posted on 04/07/2012 3:02:09 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Persevero

When I was in my teens I worked as a lifeguard on an Army base. Part of our job was to do “drown proofing” with the soldiers. Almost every black guy would go straight to the bottom like a rock and end up trying to crawl up on your head when you brought them back up LOL!! In general they seem to have very little body fat so part of the problem was they had zero buoyancy. I think a lot of it comes from exposure and being comfortable in water. What a tragedy for the mom to lose 3 children. Can’t imagine.


40 posted on 04/07/2012 3:03:28 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: Persevero
"It seems to me it can’t be helped until it is acknowledged, and there is nothing racist about it."

Sorry, but to me that smacks of the liberal attitude that blacks are incapable of taking care of themselves, making their own decisions, and so WE have to take them in hand and do something for them.

My local Y had some kind of outreach program to urge blacks to learn to swim. Why? They know they'll drown if they go in the water without knowing how. But shouldn't they be able to choose whether they learn? They KNOW swimming lessons exist and apparently choose not to take advantage of them. Their choice.

61 posted on 04/07/2012 3:16:53 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Persevero
Some years ago a sportswriter wrote a book that caused a giant uproar. The book looked at why some nationalities were better at some sports than others.

He pointed out that blacks have a heavier/denser skeletal frame so that they don't get injured as much running, etc. However, (now he didn't say that but I came to the conclusion) that would make them heavier in the water. There are very few Olympic swimmers that are black. (This man didn't just focus on blacks, he went into the physical frames of, say, Asians and how they are basically made for gymnastics and diving --- stuff like that.

I found it interesting because he was looking at the differences in the physical bodies of different ethnic groups and how that affected which sports they were good at. Of course, it was immediately called "rascist" and the man became a pariah. Such sillines.

It may simply also be a case that minority parents just don't see this as a priority for their children where, whites do. Maybe the parents just need to be educated in how important it is for the child to be able to swim, even just a little.

65 posted on 04/07/2012 3:20:07 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Persevero

No one - NO ONE! - who lives on a planet that’s 7/10 water should not know how to swim. I don’t care what color you are.


85 posted on 04/07/2012 3:30:28 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Persevero
I don’t understand the reason for it.

Because the majority of blacks live in areas where swimming facilities are not available to them.....The same question could be asked about why there are no blacks on the U.S. Ski team......

I grew up on a lake in northern Michigan and learned how to both swim and ski as a youngster. When I moved to Detroit for my junior and senior year of high school, I easily made the senior swim team which not surprising, only had one black on the team.

124 posted on 04/07/2012 3:54:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Persevero

We had had a kid from NY stay summers with us in the Fresh Air program. We taught him to swim and do water rescues! It is crazy that so American children don’t know how to swim or at least to tread water.


129 posted on 04/07/2012 3:57:48 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Persevero

They’re afraid of water and drowning. The fear is passed down in families.

There are plenty of free public (often inner city) programs that encourage kids to learn to swim, particularly in summertime.

You can lead a horse to water (heh) but you can’t make him drink.


268 posted on 04/07/2012 6:33:06 PM PDT by freeagle
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To: Persevero

It absolutely is not a racist question but only a question of a statistical fact.

A a scuba instructor rarely did I have a black student. But when I did the checkout dives at the end of the class were the funniest thing.

Anybody else in the class would either drive themself to boat or have a family member take them and drop them off and pick them up upon the boats return EXCEPT if that person was black.

Then the whole family would pile onto the boat, dressed in their Sunday best to watch the “crazy” family member jump off it into the water.

This was NOT an isolated incident but every time I had a black student.


281 posted on 04/07/2012 7:16:51 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Persevero

Make sure a child has swimming lessons, either formally or through the family, requires higher end parenting skills. The black community sadly, has a larger crossection that does not have that level or parenting ability.

My four black children swim like fish.


313 posted on 04/08/2012 6:40:58 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Persevero

Most of us went swimming with our parents when we were young - and later they dragged us to swimming lessons.

Same with reading... white parents read to their children more - have books in the home - take kids to ‘lessons’ of all types.

Most black parents don’t.


315 posted on 04/08/2012 7:05:50 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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