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Parting Ways [National Review fires John Derbyshire!]
NRO ^ | 2012-04-07 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 04/07/2012 4:24:15 PM PDT by cartan

Anyone who has read Derb in our pages knows he’s a deeply literate, funny, and incisive writer. I direct anyone who doubts his talents to his delightful first novel, “Seeing Calvin Coolidge in a Dream, or any one of his “Straggler” columns in the books section of NR. Derb is also maddening, outrageous, cranky, and provocative. His latest provocation, in a webzine, lurches from the politically incorrect to the nasty and indefensible. We never would have published it, but the main reason that people noticed it is that it is by a National Review writer. Derb is effectively using our name to get more oxygen for views with which we’d never associate ourselves otherwise. So there has to be a parting of the ways. Derb has long danced around the line on these issues, but this column is so outlandish it constitutes a kind of letter of resignation. It’s a free country, and Derb can write whatever he wants, wherever he wants. Just not in the pages of NR or NRO, or as someone associated with NR any longer.


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KEYWORDS: derb; derby; derbyshire; girlymen; johnderbyshire; nationalreview; nr; nro; racerealism; realism; richlowry; truth
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What a contemptible little coward! Now Mark Steyn is the last good writer there. Reminds me of when they fired Ann Coulter shortly after 9/11.
1 posted on 04/07/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan

Lowry is a pussy. This shows how weak that magazine has become since Buckley died. Screw You NR.


2 posted on 04/07/2012 4:27:20 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: cartan

I read the Derbyshire article. It was honest.

The Kenyan lizard’s pimp pimp Holder would be impressed.

NR is worthless and weak.


3 posted on 04/07/2012 4:30:19 PM PDT by y6162
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To: cartan
Worm!

You can't handle the truth!

4 posted on 04/07/2012 4:30:28 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: cartan

America is a failed state.

We will never get over the issue of slavery.

Blacks bring it up for cash and power and Whites accept it.

No conservative site, or discussion forums are able to challenge Jessie, Al or Farrakhan.

America must fold and start anew.


5 posted on 04/07/2012 4:30:54 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Anybody but Obama, because it's not always about me. Thank God McCain/Palin lost! - Right?)
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To: cartan

You must never tell the truth about Eric Holder’s people.


6 posted on 04/07/2012 4:33:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: cartan

National Review descends from the gutter to the sewer.

I no longer visit them, because I don’t want to give them any hits.


7 posted on 04/07/2012 4:35:44 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cartan

I don’t agree with Ann Coulter much anymore, but she nails it right on when she refers to these guys as “The Girly Boys at NRO”


8 posted on 04/07/2012 4:36:37 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: cartan
''There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life,'' Jesse Jackson said several years ago, ''than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery -- and then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.''

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/20/magazine/the-color-of-suspicion.html?pagewanted=5

9 posted on 04/07/2012 4:37:44 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Anybody but Obama, because it's not always about me. Thank God McCain/Palin lost! - Right?)
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To: cartan

F*** that.

National Review needs to go away and Breitbart needs his own mag.

Someone make it happen because screw all that Romney-pimping and Cain/Newt bombing.


10 posted on 04/07/2012 4:38:36 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: cartan

Derbyshire’s article sounded like common sense to me. I’m sure an Afro-American could pen an equally reasonable list of cautionary rules to use when dealing with a surfeit of Caucasoids. National Review seems to have lost its rudder. When my subscription is done, so am I.


11 posted on 04/07/2012 4:41:10 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: y6162

I cant find the article ...is there a link to it?


13 posted on 04/07/2012 4:43:29 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: cartan

Coward is right.

NRO seems to have disabled comments on Lowry’s two posts about Derb.


14 posted on 04/07/2012 4:44:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: cartan

This is “Breaking News”?


15 posted on 04/07/2012 4:45:41 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: cartan

NRO=Electronic toilet paper


16 posted on 04/07/2012 4:46:09 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

” Lowry is a pussy. This shows how weak that magazine has become since Buckley died. Screw You NR.”

WFB = RIP

Lowry was never born : )


17 posted on 04/07/2012 4:47:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: cartan

Now, I have fired the NRO. Over the years, I have been going there less and less. They are more interested in the approval of the msm than writing the truth. I will not miss going there.


18 posted on 04/07/2012 4:51:05 PM PDT by Essie
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To: cartan

What did the writer say in order to get fired? Did he finally discuss race?


19 posted on 04/07/2012 4:54:57 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: woofie

To be exact, this is what I read..a commentary...couldn’t find the original myself...

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/04/why-john-derbyshire-hasnt-been-fired-yet/50803/


20 posted on 04/07/2012 4:55:02 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Lazlo in PA

At the risk of name dropping, I knew Buckley reasonably well. More of a “friendly acquaintance” than a friend. What a wonderful individual. I got to see him debate Ramsey Clark back in the day. What a GREAT experience.


21 posted on 04/07/2012 4:57:52 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: cartan

I gave a curtailed version of that talk to my daughter when she went off to college in Baltimore, focusing on recent crimes there, and the fact that a third of the young black men are under the supervision of the criminal justice system, and that young black women in that city had also committed race-based crime.

She cut me off; she thought I was racist, but a few months of the local news and older students’ stories showed her that I was on the mark, and she is properly cautious.

I added that she should keep her long hair tied up and not “flip” it.

I told her that when I was in college, too many young black men, including fellow students, were trophy-hunting white girls, and that she should never feel pressured by accusations of racism.

I didn’t say anything about acquiring a well-spoken black friend as a shield against accusations of racism; that IS wrong.

I do not want my sweet, loving, unprejudiced daughter injured or raped or killed because she is naive about the racial realities of big city crime, or for her to suppress her survival instincts and common sense for fear of being “racist.”

For Derbyshire to write this publicly is to get fired from a conservative magazine.

For me to say publicly, that I had advised my daughter this way, would be to find myself ostracized in my town - this upscale exurban high-achieving paradise that all the newcomers picked for its good schools - which is code for what most of them will never say aloud or even let themselves think.


22 posted on 04/07/2012 4:58:04 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: woofie
I cant find the article…is there a link to it?
It is linked from the Lowry article. Here it is. You may have to hit reload a few times…
23 posted on 04/07/2012 4:58:08 PM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan

NR is dead to me.

Nothing in that article was one bit racist.


24 posted on 04/07/2012 4:58:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cartan

The National Review now stands athwart history, yelling,”Please don’t hurt me. I promise to be a good little poodle.”


25 posted on 04/07/2012 4:59:52 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: Essie

I didn’t know who John Derbyshire was until NRO did this. Now I’m glad to know who John Derbyshire is. I look forward to more ‘truth-telling’ from John Derbyshire.

I would like Lowry to identify just exactly what did John Derbyshire write that was false or not good advice to give your children.


26 posted on 04/07/2012 4:59:58 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: cartan

Let me guess... no comments allowed on the page?


27 posted on 04/07/2012 5:00:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cartan

I read the article this morning. All it does is describe
the guidelines most people live by. Guess you just can’t have it in print or say it out loud. I’m sure holder is
ROTFLHBAO. Someone wasn’t a coward to have the conversation.

National Review is like the Weekly Reader we used to get in grade school, Its about 17 pages. Who cares. By the way NR if you’re lurking,quit sending me stuff in the mail.


28 posted on 04/07/2012 5:00:32 PM PDT by americas.best.days...
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To: cartan
The FR thread on Derbyshire's Taki article is here .
29 posted on 04/07/2012 5:01:13 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: cartan

Now Lowry can get back to his A list Brie and Chablis parties. If an author fell in NR does it make a noise?

Happy Easter


30 posted on 04/07/2012 5:01:15 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Slow loading. I copied both parts to a Word document in prep for this being purged. Be sure to read both pages.

Derbyshire article

31 posted on 04/07/2012 5:01:15 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: cartan

There wasn’t much doubt in my mind that they were going to fire him. NRO can’t take the truth. Heck, the pansies there couldn’t find their own buttholes without both hands and a good map, and even then it would take some luck.


32 posted on 04/07/2012 5:01:58 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: LibFreeUSA

Derbyshire is a sociologist and a prison doctor from what I have read, he would know these things better than anyone, he sees it on a daily basis.


33 posted on 04/07/2012 5:04:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cartan

Aside from the article’s subject, I found the article to be written poorly. It was hard to understand.


34 posted on 04/07/2012 5:07:51 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: RIghtwardHo

Contrary to published reports, William F. Buckley is very much alive and well, using as little Arab oil as possible. Among other things I suspect he's packin' a pocket Constitution.

35 posted on 04/07/2012 5:11:52 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: cartan

Derbyshire and Steyn were the only reasons I renewed my NR subscription for as long as I did. Both non-Americans, note.

My experiences with my first three black secretaries accords with his article:
I couldn’t tell if they were lazy or stupid, and finally came to the conclusion that they were both lazy and stupid.
He wasn’t being politically correct and neither am I.
As he states, he was almost shot and I am not with that company any longer, so it’s just the naked truth.


36 posted on 04/07/2012 5:12:59 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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“NRO seems to have disabled comments on Lowry’s two posts about Derb.”

You had to know they’d do that.

They are awful with the comments anyway.

I comment there the same way I write here. I strive to be insightful and not stupid. So many times my comment doesn’t get posted at all, or so long after I’ve submitted it that it’s pointless.

I have NO IDEA what their criteria might be.

I don’t like this Derbyshire piece, but I will state for the record that I thought Coulter was right on in what she said after 9/11.

Funnily Glenn Reynolds “the instapundit” remarked the other day regarding a rather despairing column by Victor Davis Hanson on the middle east that: nobody’s tried the Coulter plan yet.

I thought that was pretty amusing.


37 posted on 04/07/2012 5:13:40 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: cartan

Sooner or later they will part ways with Mark Steyn because Steyn always writes truth too.


38 posted on 04/07/2012 5:14:50 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: doorgunner69
I won’t be purged. Taki has balls :-)
39 posted on 04/07/2012 5:14:55 PM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan

I can’t get the webzine link to work. Anyone know the site name? I’ll take Derb over that pansy Lowry any day.


40 posted on 04/07/2012 5:15:58 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: heartwood

“....which is code for what most of them will never say aloud or even let themselves think.”

You are right about that.


41 posted on 04/07/2012 5:16:14 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: GeronL

Actually, Derb is a math guy. I suspect you are thinking of Theodore Dalrymple, who is also a fantastic writer!


42 posted on 04/07/2012 5:16:46 PM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan

I swore I would comment less on this site but can’t help myself after reading all the great comments. I cancelled NR a couple years ago now because of their cowardice on the eligibility issue. Funny thing is one of the reasons I read the article before the brouhaha is because I no longer visit sites like NR.


43 posted on 04/07/2012 5:18:27 PM PDT by kreitzer
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To: cartan
In Derbyshire's timely article, two suggestions he makes in his talk to his children:

(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#ixzz1rP0MdU9C

In an amazingly timely earlier post here on FB, you may watch a video of a white tourist in downtown Baltimore being assaulted, stripped, and robbed by a gang of Holder's people, as more of Holder's people stand by and laugh. The poor sap's father should have had the talk with him.

Brietbart video here: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/07/Crowd-Laughs-As-Man-Beaten-In-Balt

Earlier FB post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2869407/posts

44 posted on 04/07/2012 5:18:49 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: cartan

Dalyrimple.... Derbyshire...

Dang it....

I get those names confoosed.... argh


45 posted on 04/07/2012 5:23:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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46 posted on 04/07/2012 5:23:32 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: heartwood

Good advice, heartwood.

I related a story yesterday about a Vietnam vet who got shot dead by one of Holder’s “peeples.”

His big error was opening his door and giving free bags of groceries to poor people.


47 posted on 04/07/2012 5:23:53 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: tumblindice

“Derbyshire and Steyn were the only reasons I renewed my NR subscription for as long as I did.”

That makes two of us. It’s pretty sad that now the only part of the magazine of any worth is the last page; the rest isn’t even fit for duty in the birdcages.


48 posted on 04/07/2012 5:24:54 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: cartan

NR has utterly disgraced itself here.

FUNR!


49 posted on 04/07/2012 5:25:14 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: jocon307

I stopped visiting NRO when most of my comments - usually about their support for Mitt - were not posted.

Now it is time to delete the bookmark. Derbyshire’s problem is that mathematicians are used to looking at numbers, not hiding them.

NRO is “The Voice of the Establishment GOP”.


50 posted on 04/07/2012 5:25:14 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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