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Maniac went for cop-killer bullets: police (.223 ammo)
ny post ^ | april 10, 2012 | LARRY CELONA, JESSICA SIMEONE and LEONARD GREENE

Posted on 04/10/2012 9:42:53 AM PDT by lowbridge

The crazed gunman who wounded four Brooklyn cops was reaching for another rifle loaded with more powerful, armor-piercing bullets to inflict deadly injuries just before he was stopped, officials said yesterday.

“If he would have been able to grab that gun, this would have been a lot more tragic. It would have been in God’s hands,” said a police official familiar with the case.

“It’s apparent [the suspect] wanted to shoot it out with cops and go out in a blaze of glory.’’

Cops said the ammo from suspect Nakwon Foxworth’s sawed-off military assault weapon would have easily pierced the Kevlar shield that hero Detective Kenneth Ayala used to protect his comrades and himself from the perp’s initial 12-bullet barrage from a 9mm revolver.

The more powerful bullets also would have gone through the officers’ vests, police said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; newyork; secondamendment
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The "sawed off military assault weapon" was a ruger mini 14. The "powerful armor piercing bullets" were standard .223 ammo
1 posted on 04/10/2012 9:43:07 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

This is crazy talk. Off the charts. .223AP???


2 posted on 04/10/2012 9:44:56 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: lowbridge

Only cops should have cop killer bullets, silly! <./sarc>


3 posted on 04/10/2012 9:45:31 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: lowbridge
“If he would have been able to grab that gun, this would have been a lot more tragic. It would have been in God’s hands,” said a police official familiar with the case.

Just wait 'til the ACLU finds out NYPD policy is to rely on God.

4 posted on 04/10/2012 9:46:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: lowbridge
Cops said the ammo from suspect Nakwon Foxworth’s sawed-off military assault weapon would have easily pierced the Kevlar shield that hero Detective Kenneth Ayala used to protect his comrades and himself from the perp’s initial 12-bullet barrage from a 9mm revolver.

If ignorance were an energy source, this passage could power a city of 100,000 people for a year.

5 posted on 04/10/2012 9:47:44 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: lowbridge
the perp’s initial 12-bullet barrage from a 9mm revolver.

They not only never seem to know what they're talking about, but they clearly don't care.

6 posted on 04/10/2012 9:47:51 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: lowbridge

And the race of Nakwon Foxworth isssssssssssssssssssssss . ??????

Not disclosed.


7 posted on 04/10/2012 9:47:51 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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To: lowbridge

Why would anybody want to saw off a perfectly good military assault weapon?.............


8 posted on 04/10/2012 9:51:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: lowbridge

Cops are immune to lesser bullets.

Lesser rounds aren’t “cop killers” so laugh at someone next time they tell you a cop was killed by 9mm. “Ha! That can’t happen! It’s not a ‘cop killing’ round!”


9 posted on 04/10/2012 9:53:05 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: lowbridge

Well there actually are 9mm revolvers but I have never heard of a 12 shot one.

Typically, any high powered rifle will easily penetrate regular vests tho there are plenty which will take a .223 or Russian 7.62X39. I bet these cops had them too.


10 posted on 04/10/2012 9:53:17 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Malone LaVeigh

s&w, ruger and taurus all make 9mm revolvers.


11 posted on 04/10/2012 9:53:51 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Joe Brower; bang_list
Super lethal, super accurate, full auto, armor piercing, weapon of choice of terrorist, women and children hardest hit, mother of all firearms, the amazing, the stupendous, the should be illegal, all-mighty Ruger Mini 14 PING! BANG!
12 posted on 04/10/2012 9:54:15 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: lowbridge

How do the bullets know that they are only supposed to kill cops?


13 posted on 04/10/2012 9:54:18 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: Never on my watch
How do the bullets know that they are only supposed to kill cops?

THEY DON'T, which is why UN Troops, and .GOV types should be the only ones that can have them....thilly! <./off Bill Cosby imitation>

14 posted on 04/10/2012 9:57:02 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: absolootezer0; Malone LaVeigh

note to self, read article, THEN comment..
later in the article: “Fortunately for them all, Foxworth, 33, only managed to fire his semiautomatic”


15 posted on 04/10/2012 9:58:17 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Red Badger
Why would anybody want to saw off a perfectly good military assault weapon?

HOW does one "saw off" a "military assault weapon"? Assuming the media moron is referencing a modern battle rifle, sawing it off would have the effect of disabling the gas system. It would be a single shot repeater. Not too scary. Having shortened a modern battle rifle, I can assure the media that it is an involved and exacting task not accomplished without considerable knowledge, skill and specialized tools. Nitwit urban playaz wouldn't have the faintest idea how to begin.

16 posted on 04/10/2012 10:05:57 AM PDT by jboot
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To: absolootezer0
s&w, ruger and taurus all make 9mm revolvers.

The only way you get 12 rounds out of a 9mm revolver in the initial volley is by having quick change cylinders. I doubt it was a revolver. I am even more sceptical of the accuracy of the reporter, he is a loose cannon and does not know it. (Useful Idiot)

17 posted on 04/10/2012 10:06:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Whew! I’m glad my rifle’s chambered for 5.56! I’d hate for it to be mistaken for the nasty stuff. After all, it’s NATO approved!


18 posted on 04/10/2012 10:08:49 AM PDT by whatexit
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To: lowbridge
Fortunately for them all, Foxworth, 33, only managed to fire his semiautomatic before being badly wounded by return fire, authorities said.

He stumbled into his bedroom to try to retrieve the assault rifle but never got to it, they said.

What an idiot reporter. The perp could not fire his semi-auto (rifle) without being able to retrieve it. A semi-auto is NOT a revolver. Reporter need a little education.

19 posted on 04/10/2012 10:10:35 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: lowbridge

Typical media BULLSHIT.
.223 is not armor piercing ammunition
a ballistic vest is not armored.
any bullet that kills an officer is a cop killer bullet and that could be the smallest caliber made.
Virtually any hunting rifle cartridge will penetrate a vest.
The American Media is very dishonest.


20 posted on 04/10/2012 10:13:38 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
And the race of Nakwon Foxworth isssssssssssssssssssssss . ?????? Not disclosed.

If Barack Obama had fathered a son, he would have looked like Nakwon Foxworth:

Nakwon Foxworth, 33, had previously been convicted of attempted murder as a juvenile and landed two years behind bars. He was later arrested for robbery and weapons possession, and did 10 more years. He was released in July 2009.

21 posted on 04/10/2012 10:14:47 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: absolootezer0
While it maybe true that the manufacturers make 9mm revolvers, the pistol in question was a 14-shot, 9mm Browning Hi-Power Mk III self-loader! (10 years in Club Fed for a felon in possession of a firearm,)

The second pistol found was a High Standard Sentinel 9-shot .22 LR revolver with altered serial number. (10 years in Club Fed for a defaced serial number or markings.)

The third was a sawed-off Ruger Mini-14 .223 rifle. (10 years in Club Fed for a sawed-off barreled rifle with over all length of less than 26 inches.)

I don't know if the Feds have a “3 Strikes Law”, but Nakwon may have qualified for a life sentence without parole as a habitual criminal.

22 posted on 04/10/2012 10:15:01 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: DCBryan1; lowbridge

***Only cops should have cop killer bullets, silly! <./sarc>***

Citizens should ONLY be allowed to own powder puff rounds like the .222 Rem and .222 Rem Mag.

Or the .22-250!

sarc/off


23 posted on 04/10/2012 10:16:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: absolootezer0

“s&w, ruger and taurus all make 9mm revolvers.”

true, but they are as common as a flintlock. Idiots trying to scare people and write whatever they want. A barrage of 12 rounds.


24 posted on 04/10/2012 10:21:04 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: yarddog

***Well there actually are 9mm revolvers***

Ruger made some back in the 1980s.


25 posted on 04/10/2012 10:21:04 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: lowbridge

they must mean SS-109 green tip?


26 posted on 04/10/2012 10:22:42 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Malone LaVeigh

The media generally relies on the police for their gun info. LOL, anyone knows the police are experts on guns and ammo and.... Ya know they’re more professional...LOL.


27 posted on 04/10/2012 10:27:35 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: lowbridge; SECURE AMERICA

.223 FMJ at under a 100 yards will penetrate most kevlar only jackets (IIA or III). Balistic plates will stop it, but the kevlar basically will not stop projectiles at 2000FPS. Works good on 1000 fps and under pistol rounds.
Here is a well done test: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot24.htm
Quote: “I’ve said it before.....rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols.”


28 posted on 04/10/2012 10:29:03 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: Texas Fossil

***A semi-auto is NOT a revolver.***

I beg to differ with you. The British built one on a Webley-Fosbery frame. You can see Sean Connery use it in ZARDOZ.

Also, around 1970, some publishers released a Zane Grey novel, NEVADA. The cover art showed a cowboy pulling and firing to his left, two Colt Navy revolvers. You know he was firing fast as the air was full of ejecting cases. ;-D


29 posted on 04/10/2012 10:30:11 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MasterGunner01

Based on the picture here, it’s a Browning BDM, not a Hi-Power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126869/Nakwon-Foxworth-arrested-taking-pregnant-girlfriend-son-hostage-Brooklyn-shoot-out.html

I love the Ruger with the pistol grip and huge scope, LOL.


30 posted on 04/10/2012 10:31:30 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Texas Fossil

It was a semi-automatic revolver.


31 posted on 04/10/2012 10:35:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Have you ever “seen” a semi-auto revolver?

NO, I did not think so.


32 posted on 04/10/2012 10:36:57 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Never on my watch

I think there is a setting....

Setting 1 - Paper Targets
Setting 2 - People
Setting 3 - Cops
Setting 4 - Zombies
Setting 5 - Aircraft
Setting 6 - Stealth Aircraft
Setting 7 - Tanks
Setting 8 - Trains
Setting 9 - City Blocks
Setting 10 - Major Metropolitan Areas

Their bullets must have been on setting 3.


33 posted on 04/10/2012 10:38:22 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: lowbridge

Have to watch out for those 9mm revolvers too:)


34 posted on 04/10/2012 10:39:23 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: USMCPOP
I love the Ruger with the pistol grip and huge scope, LOL.

That thing LOOKS deadly. /s

35 posted on 04/10/2012 10:50:18 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MasterGunner01

Thanks for clarifying what the (useful idiot) “reporter” really missed by a country mile.

Where do they get people like the “reporter” who wrote this.


36 posted on 04/10/2012 10:51:54 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: lowbridge

The only thing worse than inaccurate and non-factual reporting is freeper self-appointed experts swearing that there are no such thing as:

sawed off functioning semi-auto rifles
semi-auto revolvers
9mm revolvers


37 posted on 04/10/2012 10:54:16 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Just another dumbass alleged “journalist” who wouldn’t know a handgun from a howitzer and damn sure doesn’t know that those rounds are specified by the GENEVA CONVENTION. Unless a major structure is hit, these full metal jacket rounds are far more apt to penetrate and pass through, leaving a cleaner, less devastating injury than soft-nose projectiles, giving those wounded by them a far better chance of survival.

My God, WHERE DO THESE ALLEGED NEWSPAPERS GET THESE UNINFORMED AND IGNORANT MORONS? And could those hiring practices explain the growth of the famed Freeper Media Dinosaur Deathwatch List?


38 posted on 04/10/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (I really want Obozo to have another term -- in Leavenworth! 25 to life sounds about right.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Or the 25-06.


39 posted on 04/10/2012 10:55:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: lowbridge
12 bullet 9mm revolver!!

Wow!!

40 posted on 04/10/2012 10:55:56 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

City folk. The closest most of them ever come to a gun is when a transit cop gets on the crosstown bus.


41 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:07 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: An American!
Quote: “I’ve said it before.....rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols.”

I own and love to shoot a Remington XP-100 221 Fireball. Purchased it many years ago. What is it? Rifle or Pistol. I guess legally it is a pistol, even though it is a 600 Remington action with a short barrel and pistol stock.

42 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: USMCPOP

That’s a much better photo than what I saw. You’re correct — it’s a Browning BDM and not a Browning Hi-Power. Good eye. One thing for sure though, it isn’t a revolver!


43 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:18 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: lowbridge

Good luck hitting the broad side of a barn with one of those Mini-14’s. Sawed off even worse.


44 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

About a dozen years ago, I was in the local gun shop buying some deer slugs for hunting season that was coming up in a few weeks.
I walked by a display of military surplus .223AP at $2 per box (of 20). Needless to say, I saw an opportunity for target practice rounds, so I bought $50 worth. They do make good cheap practice rounds. The normal hunding rounds are in the ouder of $25 for a box of 20, so you don’t want to waste too many of those.


45 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:33 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

About a dozen years ago, I was in the local gun shop buying some deer slugs for hunting season that was coming up in a few weeks.
I walked by a display of military surplus .223AP at $2 per box (of 20). Needless to say, I saw an opportunity for target practice rounds, so I bought $50 worth. They do make good cheap practice rounds. The normal hunding rounds are in the order of $25 for a box of 20, so you don’t want to waste too many of those.


46 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:33 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: lowbridge

A 12 shot 9mm revolver, Wow. Un-freaking believable!....Gotta get me one of those! /s


47 posted on 04/10/2012 11:02:54 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: Manly Warrior

.357 caliber is 9mm.
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48 posted on 04/10/2012 11:04:12 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
That's the explaination!

The crazed gunman, Nakwon Foxworth, used the common, easily obtained, Webley-Fosbery, 9mm semi-automatic revolver, popular with criminals and gang-bangers, to unleash a hellstorm of 12 rounds of the deadly cop-killer hollowpoint bullets.

Think I can get a job at the NY Post?

49 posted on 04/10/2012 11:06:57 AM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well to be nit-picky, 9mm bullets are typically .355.


50 posted on 04/10/2012 11:08:30 AM PDT by yarddog
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