Posted on 04/11/2012 3:19:09 PM PDT by pawpawrick
MIAMI (CBSMiami) – George Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to the Associated Press.
Additionally, Zimmerman has been taken into custody, but it hasn’t been revealed where he is being held.
CBSMiami has confirmed that State Attorney Angela Corey, who was appointed as a special prosecutor in the case, will hold an announcement about the charges at 6 p.m. in Jacksonville.
That press conference can be viewed LIVE starting at 6 p.m. by clicking here.
soooo..let me get this right..
If I get my head pounded into the concrete and try to defend myself and kill the guy attacking me—I face a second degree murder charge?
Where do you get the “ordered to do by the 911 operator” bit? I heard the operator tell Zimmerman “we don’t need you to do that”, but never heard an order or admonishment that he stop following him. The operator simply said “we don’t need you to do that” when Zimmerman responded yes to the question by the operator regarding whether he was following the suspicious person he was calling about (Martin).
Do you have definitive proof of your statement?
The call taker asked Zimmerman if he (Zimmerman) lived in the community. Zimmerman said yes. Call taker asked apartment number, Zimmerman responded that it was a house. Call taker asked address. Zimmerman answered
with his home address (I presume, because that was muted out during broadcast playback on fox), and then Zimmerman quickly said something along the lines of, “darn! I don’t want that going out on the radio, I don’t know where this guy is.”
Meaning to me, that Zimmerman really doesn’t know where Martin is, and thinking that possibly if the police have him when Zimmerman’s address is broadcast over the radio, that Martin could come back later and get him,or his family.
Of course, I could be wrong in guessing what Zimmerman is thinking; but it’s for sure what I would be thinking... Cops stop Martin, cops release him, Martin remembers address of complainant, Martin comes to Zimmerman house to exact his retribution for Zimmerman calling cops on him.
Not a prayer to make Murder 2 stick. She had Manslaughter and now won’t get a thing.
Self-defense is not “unlawful killing”, so to have a prayer of proving 2nd degree murder they’d have to prove that Z wasn’t acting in self-defense. And they’d have to have something to refute the 911 call, the testimony of all the witnesses, and Zimmerman’s injuries.
I don’t know what evidence would be able to do that.
Try reading the constitution and the bill of rights...
Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
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I read it the same way, just couldn’t discern who “he” was in the first post. Locally, witness ID’s (curbstones) are done with the same issues in mind.
I am left speechless on why Gov Scott gave this obvious Obams reelection scam the fuel to keep going by appointing this sadly media hungry attorney
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He should fire whoever advised him to hire this clown .
He has a Obama led left wing media side show thanks to her
Blind ambitions !
The only thing that really bothers me is what he said at his against-legal-counsel interview with the DA’s office.
If there are facts here that are unreleased and GZ is truthfully guilty of something, I have no problem with him being charged, but man - If he went and gave an interview to a hostile DA and answered a question “incorrectly,” and gave the DA ammunition to trump up a charge, I’m just as frustrated wtih GZ as I am with the prosecutor. He should have known better than to talk to her without counsel present.
That aside, her demeanor was certainly unprofessional and gave the impression of a lack of objectivity or distance from the events.
Not clear to me. Where do you get this other than from Zimmerman's statement.
When Zimmerman lost Trayvon and went to his pickup to go home the encounter initiated by Zimmerman was over.
The encounter was not near Zimmermans truck. He made up the story that he was no longer following Trayvon to cover his ass.
The encounter that resulted in a death began when Trayvon approached Zimmerman. He asked why Z was following him.
Exactly. Zimmerman lied when he said he was not following Trayvon. What else is he lieing about?
Just presenting the other side.
Which makes me think that all of this "justice for Trayvon" talk from the prosecution is cynical anti-riot insurance.
For all their talk about "murder", I am certain that they will offer the jury the option to convict for involuntary manslaughter, which is what they are hoping for all along.
Self defense is an affirmative defense. If the defendant doesn’t assert it, and the deceased wasn’t executed by the state, his death is presumed to be unlawful.
In the Tawana Brawley nest of lies, Sharptoon was ordered to pay Pagones $65,000, famously refused, and had other Amish pay the judgment on his behalf. Brawley still owes Pagones $185,000.
"In 1998, Pagones was awarded $345,000 (he sought $395 million) through a lawsuit for defamation of character that he had brought against Sharpton, Maddox and Mason. The jury found Sharpton liable for making seven defamatory statements about Pagones, Maddox for two and Mason for one. The jury deadlocked on four of the 22 statements over which Pagones had sued, and it found eight statements to be non-defamatory.[27] In a later interview, Pagones said the turmoil by the accusations of Brawley and her advisers had cost him his first marriage and much personal grief.[28]Pagones had also sued Brawley. She defaulted by not appearing at the trial, and the judge ordered her to pay him damages of $185,000. As of 2003, none of the award had been paid.[29] The $65,000 judgment levied against Al Sharpton was paid for him in 2001 by supporters, including renowned attorney Johnnie Cochran plus former businessman Earl G. Graves, Jr.[30][31]"
Go Bobby Dylan!!
There’s usually some “justice for the victim” talk made during the trial, this was over the top. Murder is a crime against the state, and the prosecutor is charged with seeking justice for the people of the state. This is why in some cases the state will prosecute even though the victim doesn’t want it to. Justice for the victim is a by-product of the system, not its rationale.
My God, I live in Jax and they talked about moving the trial here....Yeesh.
At best...
Also, whatever happened to the media narrative of 'racial slur' uttered by Zimmerman? Oh darn, it turned out to be 'f___king COLD'.. Drats!
Yep.
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