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Obama vs. Romney: How Eric Cantor for Vice President Could Sway the 2012 Election
Thoughts Worth Thinking ^ | September 15, 2011

Posted on 04/11/2012 3:43:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

A political question that may influence financial markets is who will win the White House in 2012. In addressing that, I argued in an earlier post that Mitt Romney is most likely to emerge as the Republican pick based on the Republican Party’s historical preference for candidates who fall short of the nomination after fighting well and stick around for another shot.[i] An important question in assessing the quality of the campaign Romney could deploy for the general election is whom he would choose for a running mate.

Over the summer, Romney remarked that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie would be on his short list for a Vice President,[ii] but this just obscures a real heavyweight prospect for the nomination: Virginia Congressman and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor. Regional and other demographic considerations will make Cantor a formidable prospect to run with Romney:

The Southern Factor

For generations it was conventional wisdom in U.S. politics that between a presidential candidate and running mate, it was a good sell for one to be from the North and the other from the South. Kennedy (Massachusetts)/Johnson (Texas), 1960; Johnson (Texas)/Humphrey (Minnesota), 1964; and Carter (Georgia)/Mondale (Minnesota), 1976, all won national elections using that template, with Nixon (California)/Agnew (Maryland), 1968, 1972, winning on a Western/mid-Atlantic variant. The pattern has weakened as greater mobility has allowed individuals to garner more regional alliances over the course of their lives. George H.W. Bush was raised in New England but built his business and early political career in Texas, while Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, pursued higher education in New York and Massachusetts, and built his career in Illinois.

Nevertheless, North-South coverage is still a strong political asset, and Cantor’s Southern background would complement the pedigree of a Northern Republican like Mitt Romney

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1 posted on 04/11/2012 3:43:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued
Nevertheless, North-South coverage is still a strong political asset, and Cantor’s Southern background would complement the pedigree of a Northern Republican like Mitt Romney

OMG, I was going ask if you meant Romney's VP -- as a joke!

2 posted on 04/11/2012 3:46:46 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; BillyBoy; ...

Eric Cantor would be a big asset in Virginia and Florida and he would appeal to many though not all conservatives with his voting record. He would also highlight concerns about Obama’s foreign policy and attract a large number of Jewish Democrats to cross party lines.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 3:46:56 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Clintonfatigued

rino cantor is responsible for “watering down” the stock act, which allows scumbag politicians to get inside info on stock deals.


4 posted on 04/11/2012 3:52:12 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Clintonfatigued

In 2008, when Eric Cantor’s name was floated as a potential runningmate for John McCain, I supported the notion, since I thought he would provide better balance to the ticket than some of the other names that were mentioned (such as Mitt Romney). And I still believe that Eric Cantor would make a fine VP candidate—for a Protestant presidential candidate, not for a Mormon who is getting no support from Evangelicals. Even with the prevalence of philo-Semiticism among Evangelical Protestants, I don’t think Romney should pick a Jewish (or other non-Protestant) runningmate.


5 posted on 04/11/2012 4:03:14 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: biggredd1

Yeah. What you said. I don’t understand why Pubs flock to this guy. He is obviously a RINO and a huge disappointment. Makes me think twice about relocating from icy New York to “Virginia is for lovers.” (Son moved from Rochester and settled in Charlottesville.) sd


6 posted on 04/11/2012 4:04:34 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: shotdog

virginia has its advantages over NY, but rino cantor isn’t one of them.


7 posted on 04/11/2012 4:14:34 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Clintonfatigued

Nothing gets a Dem voting block to cross lines.

McDonell would be a much better choice- at least he could guarantee Virginia.
I imagine he would appeal nationwide.

Too bad there isn’t a “Dick Cheney” hardcore type to help him out.


8 posted on 04/11/2012 4:15:19 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Mitt could make it worse for himself, if he chooses another RINO as his VP pick. There are lots of RINOS out there, including many RINOS who are mistaken for conservatives, and Mitt, probably, has many RINOS on his short list for VP picks. I’m beyond tired of having the final pick for GOP POTUS being, either, a RINO, or being a “Big Government Conservative”! What’s wrong with having a “Small Government Conservative” become the final GOP pick for POTUS?


9 posted on 04/11/2012 4:18:50 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: justiceseeker93; ExTexasRedhead; ChicagoHebrew

The Vice Presidential speculation has begun and here is a possibility that intrigues me greatly.


10 posted on 04/11/2012 4:24:11 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I like Cantor, I don’t think he’s national candidate potential. However Jewish voters won’t vote for Romney because he has a Jewish VP. Need to stress other issues, like the economy.


11 posted on 04/11/2012 4:26:07 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Cool your jets. A white male will not be VP.


12 posted on 04/11/2012 4:32:43 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Clintonfatigued
Oh wait... I have an even better idea... how about jeb bush? Maybe olympia snowe? maybe joe kennedy will take the gig... naw it will be another uber liberal... christie.

LLS

13 posted on 04/11/2012 4:42:23 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: LibLieSlayer

Where did that come from? Eric Cantor isn’t in the same catagory as those people.


14 posted on 04/11/2012 4:47:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If the VP isn’t a conservative, I’d say give away the RNC’s money on street corners, and at least you’ll be stimulating the economy with it.

Nominate Whoopi Goldberg. She’d carry the Black and Jewish vote right. Goldberg is Jewish, right? Right?


15 posted on 04/11/2012 4:57:21 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

At least it will take him out of the House so that I don’t have to vote against him.


16 posted on 04/11/2012 4:57:48 PM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Clintonfatigued
First of all... it was just a stab at using humor to imply that the House would NEVER start impeachment proceedings against obama before the election. boehner and cantor will not stand up to obama and they never have. They caved for the Super Committee and conspired with obama, pelosi and reid to kill Cut, Cap and Balance and reach their “grand compromise”. THAT is what I meant and that is all that I meant. You do not truly think that cantor would promote and lobby boehner to bring Articles of Impeachment before the November election... do you?

LLS

17 posted on 04/11/2012 5:34:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: mrsmith
Nothing gets a Dem voting block to cross lines.

That's the smartest thing I've read on this site all day. Thanks.

18 posted on 04/11/2012 5:40:02 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Clintonfatigued

Sory... wrong thread... but cantor is not someone I like a great deal... my mistaken post explains why. He is not in the league with the others but he is not on any list that I would have for any position. cantor is a leader in the gop/e... I am sorry if that offends you but that is how I see the man.

LLS


19 posted on 04/11/2012 5:40:21 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: Clintonfatigued
I don't think Cantor would entice the Jews to support a Republican.

For VP....I would prefer either Allen West or Marco Rubio!

20 posted on 04/11/2012 8:51:32 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (*OMG ...means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The Vice Presidential speculation has begun and here is a possibility that intrigues me greatly.

This is just more RiNO chum and scum, spread around on the waters to try to interest conservatives in their dog of a candidate.

Keep your eyes on the ball, FReepers! DO NOT mentally concede the nomination while it is still possible to deny Romney and the RiNO's and break open the convention.

21 posted on 04/11/2012 9:34:54 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal
>> Eric Cantor would be a big asset in Virginia and Florida and he would appeal to many though not all conservatives with his voting record. He would also highlight concerns about Obama’s foreign policy and attract a large number of Jewish Democrats to cross party lines. <<

I disagree. Although I was never too keen on Cantor (too much establishment beltway mentality), I think he'd make an acceptable running mate and his voting record is fairly conservative. However, I don't think he'd make a dent into the Jewish vote at all.

It's similar to how Republicans continue to delude ourselves into thinking we'll win over more black votes when we run a black candidate. Even when a black Republican wins office, it's not thanks to black voters since they give 80% of their votes to the RAT candidate and will vote for a white RAT over a "fellow" black who has an "R" next to his name. The media kept pushing the idea that Jesse Jackson Jr. was "vulnerable" and would lose black voters. Nuh uh, never gonna happen. Instead, he won the 2010 general election by over 80% against a black Republican (and that's including white suburbs in the mix!) and then won the 2012 RAT primary by over 70% against a white Democrat, in a district that is now 2/3rd suburban and while he lost both Will. AND Kankakee county (but won over 90% of the vote in the black part of his district in Crook County).

It works the same way with Jewish votes. You can run all the pro-Israel Jewish Republicans you want, and they'll still overwhelmingly vote for the RAT candidate screaming "Free Palestine!" Some Republicans saw the results in NY-9 where a conservative Republican won huge with Jewish voters and thought that would translate nationally. The problem is that he won huge with ORTHODOX Jews, and they make up over 40% of Jewish voters in NY-9 (he still lost Conservative and Reform Jews). Nationally, Orthodox Jews are only 10% or so of the Jewish population. The fact we might sway some of them to vote Republican doesn't mean we'll make inroads into the "Jewish vote" as a whole, anyone that it means the Democrats will win big in the south overall because they do well in Maryland. Conservative, Reform, and secular Jews will still give 3/4ths or more of their votes to the RATs.

There was some poll out just this month that showed despite Obama's anti-Jewish record, only 30% of Jewish voters say they prefer a Republican over him in November, and over 60% say they're strongly committed to Obama (can't find the FR link, but here's the poll: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-campign-jews-idUSBRE8320MH20120403 ) Obama won over 78% of the Jewish vote last time, and even though he was much more popular back then, it pales in comparison to what FDR, Clinton, and others got. Even when Walter Mondale LOST to Reagan in a 49-state landslide DEFEAT, he STILL got over 67% of the Jewish vote! Given that kind of data (I doubt Obama is going to lose 49 states), I think the GOP could resurrect Moses himself to be Romney's running mate and there would be a good chance Obama doesn't get under 70% of the Jewish vote. That segment of the population is completely wedded to the RAT party, no matter how much Republicans hope otherwise from election to election.

22 posted on 04/11/2012 11:06:08 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Dengar01; GOPsterinMA

Haven’t you heard CF? Every Republican in a Congressional leadership position now or in the past (except for (since December) Newt Gingrich) is piece of crap RINO whom you should never consider voting for.

Cantor has been somewhat disappointing as a congressional leader but it’s not like he’s yellow snowe.

Anyway I think Cantor would help with Jews, nothing dramatic but enough to help in Florida, Jews are a little fungible now, unlike Blacks. I’m not so sure how much any House member would help in their home state, he’s never run statewide.


23 posted on 04/12/2012 12:44:43 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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“Haven’t you heard CF? Every Republican in a Congressional leadership position now or in the past (except for (since December) Newt Gingrich) is piece of crap RINO whom you should never consider voting for.”

Ain’t that the truth. You have to start questioning the collective wisdom that labels everyone to be unacceptable (Mittens is at best a RINO though, there’s not much debate in that).


24 posted on 04/12/2012 6:13:54 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Has Mittens won one "Red State" yet?)
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To: BillyBoy; All

“...I think the GOP could resurrect Moses himself to be Romney’s running mate and there would be a good chance Obama doesn’t get under 70% of the Jewish vote. That segment of the population is completely wedded to the RAT party, no matter how much Republicans hope otherwise from election to election.”

Brilliantly stated, BB!


25 posted on 04/12/2012 6:30:20 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Has Mittens won one "Red State" yet?)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

Cantor’s key to Florida is his Jewish heritage.
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Your attempt is respected and noted. However, Moses could raise from the dead and run as the VP candidate on the GOP Ticket and American Jews would still vote Democrat 70%. In the 2008 Election, 78% of the Jewish vote went to Obama. Yeah; a dude whose middle name is Hussein; imagine that. Now, Obama is polling at 70% among the American Jews even after the way he has disrespected Netanyahu (who hates Obama) and thrown the nation of Israel under the bus. Now, you think Eric Cantor; a Jew with a Southern twang; would win them over???? When pigs fly!

MARCO RUBIO FOR VEEP!!!


26 posted on 04/12/2012 9:17:55 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Crawdad

That’s the smartest thing I’ve read on this site all day. Thanks.
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That’s because you had not, as of yet, read my Post #26. (LQTM)


27 posted on 04/12/2012 9:24:08 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I live in Cantor’s district and I plan on voting against him on the June 12th VA primary if the Tea Party runs someone. FYI: The Tea Party is big in his district.


28 posted on 04/12/2012 9:28:05 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Dengar01; GOPsterinMA
I'm talking with a "conservative" Perrybot now who is touting the idea of Condolezza Rice for Romney's veep and heaping praise on her for this article ( http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/220977-condoleezza-rice-i-dont-know-when-immigrants-became-the-enemy ) where she endorses Dick Lugar for re-election expresses dismay that "comprehensive immigration reform" wasn't passed during Bush's presidency. If it hasn't been posted on FR already, I may repost the article, because I doubt any conservatives here will jump in line to agree with Condi.

I explained to the guy that Rice is probably to the LEFT of Romney, and that Romney's not conservative to begin with. Now the guy tells me that not only does he agree with Condi that we should bring "undocumented" immigrants "out of the shadows" and give them amnesty, but he also agrees with Rice that "now is the time" for the Hamas-run Palestinian authority to get their own country next to Israel (nevermind the fact they've been vowing to wipe Israel off the map for the last 60 years) and that Israel should ko-tow to terrorist demands to "stop building settlements". He also has "no problems" with a pro-abortion Vice President.

This guy may be worse than the nutty Jon Huntsman supporter I met who insisted the Federation for American Immigration Reform was a Planned Parenthood front group. I'm surprised this guy was such a big Perrybot. Perry looks like Reagan next to this guy and Condi Rice.

No wonder we end up with so many RINOs in office, if you look at the kind of voters who mistakenly think of themselves as "conservative" when they agree with the left on numerous major policies. Why this guy sees himself as a staunch conservative is beyond me.

29 posted on 04/12/2012 11:09:21 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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30 posted on 04/12/2012 12:43:27 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: central_va; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Corin Stormhands; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; ...

Filing for the primary is closed in VA.

Cantor drew one primary challenger, one Floyd Bane, a substitute teacher. Boy oh boy if only he was realtor he’d have a much better chance! Substitute teacher is worse than janitor and only a little better than lunch lady.

From his site it looks like he’s a Paulbot.


31 posted on 04/13/2012 4:33:51 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

A substitute teacher is even less promising than someone whose purported “occupation” just cries out “third-tier candidate”: “law student” or “investor.” And a Paulestinian to boot!

Not that it matters, since Cantor will mop the floor with him in the primary, and in the unlikely event that Romney picks Cantor as his runningmate, the GOP would substitute Cantor on the congressional ballot with someone who wasn’t on the primary ballot.


32 posted on 04/13/2012 5:28:54 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I wish this person was kidding. Cantor is a whiny azz and he would make things worse.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 5:43:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: BillyBoy
Why this guy sees himself as a staunch conservative is beyond me.

Perhaps the simplest explanation is that he knows he isn't and is lying when he says he is.

34 posted on 04/14/2012 5:31:51 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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