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IMHO we need to form a third party ticket NOW. Romney will not will anyway. But more importantly, it is a matter of principle. I stand before God, my family and my country when I vote, and if the 2 party candidates are but a moving the country closer to the precipice (one in 5th gear, the other in 3rd gear), then there is an obligation not to go with the flow. A third party vote is not a wasted vote - voting for Obama or Romney is.

I think of Judas Machabees (in the Septuagint 2 Machabees 3:58-59) when it became clear that defeat was imminent. He said, "Gird yourselves, and be valiant men, and be ready against the morning, that you may fight with these nations that are assembled against us to destroy us and our sanctuary. For it is better for us to die in battle, than to see the evils of our nation, and of the holies."

It is better to battle for God, family and our country then cave in. Is anyone out there able to get this message clear to the Tea Party? We cannot endorse compromise without compromising.

1 posted on 04/11/2012 5:21:53 PM PDT by koinonia
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To: koinonia
“the elitist machinations of the sham party system are predictably moving America toward another false choice between an avowed socialist Democrat and a prevaricating socialist Republican.”

Truth like that will never get him elected.
2 posted on 04/11/2012 5:28:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: koinonia

In response to your comment, I have read on many other sites that people of conscience, being pro-life, will not vote for Romney because of his record. I blogged those comments twice today in different sites so people would understand that there is no way Romney can win if pro-life voter stays home, or don’t vote for the president, only Congressional seats. I commented several weeks ago that we should have organized a true tea party when we had the momentum in 2010. To trust it to the republican party was a mistake.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 5:30:38 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: FReepers

4 posted on 04/11/2012 5:32:15 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: koinonia

In response to your comment, I have read on many other sites that people of conscience, being pro-life, will not vote for Romney because of his record. I blogged those comments twice today in different sites so people would understand that there is no way Romney can win if pro-life voter stays home, or don’t vote for the president, only Congressional seats. I commented several weeks ago that we should have organized a true tea party when we had the momentum in 2010. To trust it to the republican party was a mistake.


5 posted on 04/11/2012 5:32:23 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: koinonia

Sorry, but it’s too late to form a third parry, find a candidate and raise adequate funds to get his or her name out. There just isn’t enough time.


6 posted on 04/11/2012 5:32:43 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: koinonia

It IS a matter of principle. I’m voting Republican in my primary in order to voice my vote for both Newt and my referred Senate candidate. After that, I’m switching to Independent until a REAl party emerges that is for and by WE the People.


7 posted on 04/11/2012 5:34:42 PM PDT by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
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To: koinonia

Alan Keyes is the ultimate election loser. The man is a near permanent political candidate and couldn’t get elected dog catcher - even if his opponent were a baby eating serial killer. You quite literally couldn’t find a more terrible person to get political advice from.


11 posted on 04/11/2012 5:52:59 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: koinonia

Bump


13 posted on 04/11/2012 5:53:31 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: koinonia

Keyes sure did a lot to stop Obama when he carpet bagged himself into the candidate against Obama’s pre-pre-Presidential campaign. Keyes actually made the previous choice of the Ill™ GOP - the Borg rejected name sake of their latest caught crook governor - look good by comparison. He should be treated as a fatal merger of Sgt. Schultz’s brains with Col. Klink’s ego.


14 posted on 04/11/2012 6:09:05 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: koinonia

FUMR!


16 posted on 04/11/2012 6:17:26 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: koinonia

I don’t think the republic falls no matter which is elected. That is hyperbole.

The country can take Obama - assuming the Republican party and others with standing begin to fiercely fight back.
The party will be decimated by Romney.

Fear leads people to act in histrionic ways.


18 posted on 04/11/2012 6:41:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldnÂ’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: koinonia; American Constitutionalist; Lazlo in PA; Guenevere; onyx; Sun; parksstp; cripplecreek; ...

Thank you, koinonia.

You gave me another idea on how to respond to those who are horrified when I tell them I am not going to vote for Romney,.It’s about principle and core values but also: “I stand before God, family and country” And I cannot in good conscience cast my vote for a man who ran a dishonorable, underhanded, unprincipled and cruel race in an attempt to destroy and besmirch the reputations of his opponents, who all happened to be good people..

Just like the GOP-E that endorses him, Romney believed that he could take away my electoral privilege to choose..which as stated clearly in the Constition is an “inalienable right”.
He will not succeed.
I am a Conservative activist first and foremost.
The Republican Party of my youth, the one that my Dad loved and that Ronald Reagan represented...is not recognizalble to me anymore.
It is comprised of a bunch of good ol’boy elitists.The RNC is the worst. I’ve met many of them in my grassroots campaign efforts since 2000 and with a few exceptions, they are not an admirable group.

For the most part, they are self centered and arrogant.
And they could care less about Conservatives. May I remind them that the Tea Party, not them, was responsible for the political successes of 2010.

There is no gratitude, no acknowledgments and unfortunately, the current Tea Party seems to have lost it’s structure, if there ever was any.

Some Tea Party “leaders/members have said that they do not like Romney but they are voting for him anyway...the standard cop out of a coward.
Mittens will throw the Tea Party patriots under the bus before the national convention is over.

So if we are to succeed, koninonia, after this election, it will be up to us.
Organizations cannot be relied upon.
The country will have to hit bottom and then we will have to figure out a way to come together to try to scratch and crawl our way back up toward the restoration of our Republic to the values that made it great.
And adhering to Constitutional principles is the only way to do that.

The question is whether or not there are enough of us to be able to do what is needed.
Luckily, the founding fathers have given us a manual for success.
The rest will be up to We The People...and God.


19 posted on 04/11/2012 7:01:58 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: koinonia

Wouldn’t it be easier to help Newt win in the remaining 20 primary states than to form a 3rd party? If Romney loses 54% of the upcoming delegates in the next 20 states then he doesn’t get the magic 1,144 number to secure the nomination. This thing isn’t over unless the voters decide it’s over.


22 posted on 04/11/2012 7:17:12 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: koinonia
The “lesser evil” approach guarantees the triumph of wrong.

Succinctly put. And the epitaph of the Republican party.

23 posted on 04/11/2012 7:19:46 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: koinonia
It was hard to vote for McCain (and Bush, Dole, Bush). It will be so easy to not vote for Romney.

It may be impossible for a third party to win this one but the stage will be set for 2016. I'm all ears!

24 posted on 04/11/2012 7:20:49 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: koinonia

If we accept Alan Keyes premise that the nation will fail regardless with mittens or zero, doing things such as forming a third party would be less than useless.
Some may want to stay and fight in a civil war. Others will try to hunker down in some corner of the US for a while. If you really believe that the republic is lost as Keyes does, the only thing to on a long term basis is to escape the US.
I do not accept the meme that a mitt regime would be as bad as zero, and I could see myself fighting for liberty under these circumstances. If mitt leans too far from the Left, he would face a serious conservative primary challenger. If it’s zero, resistance will be futile, and I believe that many of us will seriously consider leaving the US.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 7:25:17 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: koinonia

Romney 2012. That’s all I need to remember when I vote in November, like it or not.


27 posted on 04/11/2012 7:56:58 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: koinonia
Romney = Øbama-lite (or Øbama-white).

Either way, machts nicht.

31 posted on 04/11/2012 9:08:49 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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