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Trayvon Martin's mom says she thinks his killing was an 'accident' [Changing tune now??]
MSNBC ^ | 4/12/12 | Ian Johnston

Posted on 04/12/2012 6:04:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Trayvon Martin’s mother Sybrina Fulton told the TODAY show Thursday that she believes her son’s fatal shooting by George Zimmerman was an accident.

“I believe it was an accident, I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back," she said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: justicefortrayvoninc; race; sabrinafulton; sybrinafulton; trayvon; trayvonaccident; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanarrest; zimmermancharged
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HOW CONVENIENT TO SAY THIS AFTER FANNING THE FLAMES OF RACISM.
1 posted on 04/12/2012 6:04:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

He couldn’t turn the Glock back, actually.


2 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:51 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Not making any money on her copyright?


3 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:56 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
According to Florida law, now that there was an arrest she can start suing. She made it clear that all she wanted was an arrest, she didn't mention justice in the press conference.

Now the bucks can start flowing.

4 posted on 04/12/2012 6:08:56 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Safetgiver

Special DA had a talk with her about the case ( lack there of one).


5 posted on 04/12/2012 6:09:25 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: struggle

Actually, it was a Kel-Tec, but that works, I like it.


6 posted on 04/12/2012 6:09:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m thinking the parents are finding out what really happened are changing their tune. A little late, after releasing the race baiting, whitey hating, hounds.


7 posted on 04/12/2012 6:10:21 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just yesterday I read where she called it “murder!” What has changed her mind now?


8 posted on 04/12/2012 6:10:35 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hey, if she is starting to walk it back to the truth, DON’T MAKE MATTERS WORSE.

A man’s freedom is at stake.


9 posted on 04/12/2012 6:11:52 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: AAABEST
Trayvon Martin: thug, political pawn and now cash cow.

Such a wonderful legacy.

10 posted on 04/12/2012 6:15:36 AM PDT by jboot
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To: SoFloFreeper
Here's what I now believe... the prosecutor/ state has met with the Martin family, sharing all they know of the evidence, and of course they have truthful testimony from Zimmerman by way of a lie detector assisted confession. That evidence shows that Trayvon was the aggressor, was belligerent, and did threaten the life and limb of Z, and likely shows there was struggle for the gun.

Background evidence:

I believe a deal has been worked out between the Martin family, the prosecutor and Z. Have you noticed that the mother has recently said, that what she really wanted was an arrest of Z... not that she was pushing for a guilty verdict regardless of guilt. They all know now what went down, and they all know the propensity of T pushing the envelope, testing out his growing taste for thuggish behavior in newly actualized adult, brutish body.

Z likely is remorseful, and wishes things had not gone down the way they did, but still, he is left with the proposition, that it was either himself or T that would die that night, and justifiable homicide is everybody's conclusion. T's family knows, they knew the path he was choosing, they knew if he didn't get back to the straight and narrow, he would either wind up dead or going to jail for killing someone, they knew.

11 posted on 04/12/2012 6:15:50 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Bushbacker1
I think many people are praying for the parents of Trayvon and also for George Zimmerman and his family.

The story is indeed tragic.

12 posted on 04/12/2012 6:16:10 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: SoFloFreeper

She just handed the defense a HUGE gift.Don’t know whether she realizes that or not.For that matter I don’t know if she might have *intended* to that.A tape of that comment will be played by the defense in their closing argument.In fact,it could even cause the prosecutor to refrain from bring this to trial.It’s *that* big.


13 posted on 04/12/2012 6:18:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Sounds like a call for dismissal...Which would make me think he was "skittled" out of his mind...and had a knife and his fists were bruised etc etc.

I never knew skittles were s street name for drugs. Thanks...because I'll listen for it among the kids I know. (My grandchildren)

14 posted on 04/12/2012 6:19:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: FreedomPoster

I shot a Kel-Tec pistol that fired a 5.56 round. Can’t remember the model name, but damn, what a loud gun.


15 posted on 04/12/2012 6:20:06 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So, now that the state has brought 2nd degree murder charges, it was all an accident.

I don’t know who looks more stupid here. The race baiters or the state, who brought these charges out of fear of the race baiters.

What a mess. I suppose the charges should now be dropped. Maybe they will be.


16 posted on 04/12/2012 6:21:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SoFloFreeper

I blame the racism on the President. Not on this aggrieved mother. Wasn’t she the one who thought her son was suspended for tardiness? Then she, as well as everybody else in the world, found out that the 17 year old was getting into things he should not have been getting into. Who knows, if he hadn’t been killed, whether he would have continued on that path, or turned things around? In the meanwhile, the undated family photo shows what looks to be a 14 year old with so much potential. Regardless of the outcome of the criminal proceeding, we who are Christians hope that this mother and her son will be reunited in heaven.


17 posted on 04/12/2012 6:21:32 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: SoFloFreeper

Al Sharpton and his goons have been fanning the flames not so much the family, although they have let it happen. It would be wise for them to distance themselves from Sharpton who is solely out to use their sons death for political and personal gain.


18 posted on 04/12/2012 6:22:33 AM PDT by 3rdcoastislander
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To: AAABEST
According to Florida law, now that there was an arrest she can start suing. She made it clear that all she wanted was an arrest,...

Yep, the money train begins to roll, this gal will win the Oscar for 2012's best actress.

19 posted on 04/12/2012 6:22:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Redmen4ever

>>I blame the racism on the President. Not on this aggrieved mother. Wasn’t she the one who thought her son was suspended for tardiness? Then she, as well as everybody else in the world, found out that the 17 year old was getting into things he should not have been getting into. Who knows, if he hadn’t been killed, whether he would have continued on that path, or turned things around? In the meanwhile, the undated family photo shows what looks to be a 14 year old with so much potential. Regardless of the outcome of the criminal proceeding, we who are Christians hope that this mother and her son will be reunited in heaven.

I see the same truth in the matter. As a teacher, I see that most parents aren’t aware of their child’s behavior until issues arise at school. This 17 year old thug is like a lot of the thugs in my school - brazenly cocky, but at the first sign of trouble they turn dewy eyed and willowy.


20 posted on 04/12/2012 6:24:09 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: SoFloFreeper
It wasn't an "accident."

It was intentional. It was either self-defense or murder. But even Zimmerman doesn't claim that his gun went of accidentally.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 04/12/2012 6:24:16 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: SoFloFreeper

How interesting. Perhaps she knows that now that there is going to be a concerted defense the real Travon Martin is going o be shown for what he really was?


22 posted on 04/12/2012 6:26:29 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Bushbacker1

I’m thinking they saw Zimmerman’s mugshot.


23 posted on 04/12/2012 6:26:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoFloFreeper

Can’t we all just get along?

Sheesh


24 posted on 04/12/2012 6:28:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

One sad consequence of this thing is that riots ensue, more black people will be killed by other black people.


25 posted on 04/12/2012 6:28:54 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
An object lesson in the exploitation of someone's tragedy: if you can't get an all out breakdown of civil society out of it, you can still leverage it for totalitarian gun laws!

A Marxist winwin.

26 posted on 04/12/2012 6:29:48 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: dforest

Actually, the State bringing charges is not all that stupid.

If they had not brought charges they knew that things would have exploded with riots etc.

Now that charges have been brought it appears the mother and probably all the family will now start ‘talking down’ the racists as they know what really happened.

Now if the case is dismissed or a not guilty verdict is reached at trial they are hoping all the evidence will dissipate the tensions and hopefully avert riots.

it is a calculated gamble by the state — trade 100% sure riots for a 25-50% chance there are no riots when Zimmerman is exonorated.

And then there is always the possibility that there is evidence that shows the charges are justified — although I think this is highly unlikely.


27 posted on 04/12/2012 6:32:33 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: dforest

Actually, the State bringing charges is not all that stupid.

If they had not brought charges they knew that things would have exploded with riots etc.

Now that charges have been brought it appears the mother and probably all the family will now start ‘talking down’ the racists as they know what really happened.

Now if the case is dismissed or a not guilty verdict is reached at trial they are hoping all the evidence will dissipate the tensions and hopefully avert riots.

it is a calculated gamble by the state — trade 100% sure riots for a 25-50% chance there are no riots when Zimmerman is exonorated.

And then there is always the possibility that there is evidence that shows the charges are justified — although I think this is highly unlikely.


28 posted on 04/12/2012 6:32:46 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: dps.inspect
Nice summation.

However, the truth will not stop the NBP or Jesse or Al from marching, rioting over this so-called White-Hispanic killing "Little" Trayvon.

All the while, indifferent to the horrific Black on Black and Black on White murder rates nationwide.

29 posted on 04/12/2012 6:33:44 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SoFloFreeper

Even with ‘accidents’ one can be charged with manslaughter here in Fl.............


30 posted on 04/12/2012 6:34:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
A man’s freedom is at stake.

A man’s freedom AND LIFE is at stake. How long do you think he will last in prison? His life won't be worth a plug nickel............

31 posted on 04/12/2012 6:36:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: dps.inspect

Yes I believe this also. But look what has happened as a result. All the fuel of distrust and old hatreds has reared its ugly head. If we are to save this republic we cant just vote good people into office us, the american public need each other to pull this off.

Charging Mr. Zimmerman with second degree murder is an outrage and should make everyone take pause for we have now fallen into MOB RULE. I have been asking myself why when the first prosecutor said there is no case here, Ms. Corey charges Mr. Z with murder? One can only come up with but one conclusion, this is to try and calm the mob down. Never thought I would see this day. And how is Mr. Z supposed to get a fair trial? We should all be very afraid at this turn of events.

Oh and thank you JimRob for sending my password to me so quick you are such a sweetie. :-)


32 posted on 04/12/2012 6:38:07 AM PDT by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If it was an accident, it lets Zimmerman off, but perhaps makes it easier for the Martin family to collect from the HOA insurance company.


33 posted on 04/12/2012 6:38:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: dforest
What a mess. I suppose the charges should now be dropped. Maybe they will be.

You seem to be under the impression the US operates under Sharia Law ans it's a case of the courts regulating the grievences and blood money in the case of the Martin clans v. the Zimmerman clan.

US lae is a desendent of British Law. The crimes are viewed as committed against The King's Peace or The People.

Once someome is accused it's Florida v. George Zimmerman.

Ny feeling is the States Attorney has a couple of underreported facts/circumstances that give her a really stong case against Zimmerman under Florida Law and Zimmerman is as innocent as Mumia Abu-jamal.

34 posted on 04/12/2012 6:38:53 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: commish

I thought that last night.
The prosecutor brings charges to make a trial happen so ALL the evidence is presented in court for ALL to see.

Then he is found NOT GUILTY and the state is off the hook...........


35 posted on 04/12/2012 6:39:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: AAABEST

According to Florida law, now that there was an arrest she can start suing. She made it clear that all she wanted was an arrest, she didn’t mention justice in the press conference.

Now the bucks can start flowing.


And the facts regarding Trayvon can come out through discovery such as any behavorial, social issues he had, drug use, any drugs/alcohol in his system the night he died, etc... Up till now the general public has been treated to photos of a cute 13 year old boy. That will change in court.


36 posted on 04/12/2012 6:39:48 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The decision to charge him with second degree murder, is nothing more than a compromise to end the protests and to defuse a situation which could get out of control, and to prevent more incidents of violence or worse.

So, it’s a compromise, where the state charges the defendant with second degree murder, the charge gets reduced in court to manslaughter, and the defendant ends up serving a short period of time in prison, and gets released before his next birthday.

Alternately, the charges are dropped for lack of evidence, and Zimmerman and his family apologize to the Martin family, and the whole situation will have been defused. Thus, the charges are, mostly, just a means to defuse an ugly situation, and to prevent it from getting worse.


37 posted on 04/12/2012 6:40:22 AM PDT by adorno
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To: dps.inspect
T's family knows, they knew the path he was choosing, they knew if he didn't get back to the straight and narrow, he would either wind up dead or going to jail for killing someone, they knew.

Which is WHY MOM sent TRAYVON to go live with his DAD.

38 posted on 04/12/2012 6:42:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I know.. Why are we only hearing this now? UnFreakinReal!


39 posted on 04/12/2012 6:43:10 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: Red Badger

I just have one question.

Where are the pitures of Zimmerman’s family? The kid with his parents? Seems odd.


40 posted on 04/12/2012 6:43:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: dforest
I don’t know who looks more stupid here. The race baiters or the state, who brought these charges out of fear of the race baiters.

a very apt analysis.

41 posted on 04/12/2012 6:44:46 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: dps.inspect
Here's what I now believe... the prosecutor/ state has met with the Martin family, sharing all they know of the evidence, and of course they have truthful testimony from Zimmerman by way of a lie detector assisted confession. That evidence shows that Trayvon was the aggressor, was belligerent, and did threaten the life and limb of Z, and likely shows there was struggle for the gun.

I could only stomach just so much of the news conference after the prosecutor referred to the parents as "sweet" and that as prosecutor she just wanted "justice for Trayvon."

42 posted on 04/12/2012 6:45:03 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

One sad consequence of this thing is that riots ensue, more black people will be killed by other black people.


Chicago homicides soar in first quarter of 2012

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-homicides-soar-20120412,0,1713215.story


43 posted on 04/12/2012 6:45:07 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: UCANSEE2

You got that right!!


44 posted on 04/12/2012 6:45:18 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
One sad consequence of this thing is that riots ensue, more black people will be killed by other black people.

Jackson, Sharpton, and Obama don't care how many black people are killed, as long as they can hold onto their power and wealth.

45 posted on 04/12/2012 6:46:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: adorno

Why would Zim apologize to the Martin’s? If his story is true then he was viciously attacked and Trayvon attempted to murder him. In such a case, the Martin’s should apologize to Zim for their thug son’s behavior.


46 posted on 04/12/2012 6:47:34 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: AAABEST
-- now that there was an arrest she can start suing. --

Not so fast there. Zimmerman will move for dismissal based on having statutory immunity. Corey or whoever she punts this to will have to produce evidence and argument that establish it is more likely than not, that Zimmerman did NOT act is reasonable fear of death or serious injury.

47 posted on 04/12/2012 6:48:10 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: commish

I agree with your post 100%. It is just not our way to charge someone with a crime for the purpose you described.


48 posted on 04/12/2012 6:48:14 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dps.inspect

If ‘dad’ had stayed home that night and kept an eye on Trayvon, Trayvon wouldn’t be dead.


49 posted on 04/12/2012 6:50:16 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I have seen a few pics of him and his parents. But they show a 6 foot tall 160 pound Trayvon, not a 5 foot tall skinny 13 year old Trayvon, so they have been suppressed or removed from the airwaves.....


50 posted on 04/12/2012 6:50:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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