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Commentary: Glenn Beck's Oval Office {Beck going all in for Mitt?]
Star-Telegram ^ | April 12, 2012 | Bud Kennedy

Posted on 04/12/2012 11:15:49 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

Glenn Beck has been in Texas only a few months, and he's already talking big.

Now, he wants to address America from his own Oval Office.

Lest anyone fear that something has suddenly gone drastically wrong in our country, Beck's Oval Office is a movie set in Irving.

-SNIP-

Saying he will "deliver the speeches the president should have delivered," Beck promised to "activate the sleeping giant" of Christian conservatives in America with speeches from his new set on the Studios' Stage A.

Mainly, of course, Beck's goal is to motivate subscribers to pay $9.95 a month for his show, broadcast daily to about 300,000 viewers via computer, iPad, iPhone or other household appliance.

-SNIP-

Beck said he hopes to hire 1,000 workers in Irving for an entrepreneurial project.

It's named American Dream Labs.

He's right about the dream part

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beck; gbtv; inman; mormon; progressives; romney
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To: sand lake bar
Not what I said. Read my post again. As for your thoughts on one faith---Jesus Christ said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me."
101 posted on 04/12/2012 2:18:36 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: greyfoxx39

That’s right. They can make their own decisions and vote however they like, although I wish they would think (and pray) about it. But I’m not going to let someone tell me I should go against what I know God wants of me.


102 posted on 04/12/2012 2:20:21 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: svcw

“Beck is a support of Romney, statistics says its so 98% of lds support Romney, I do not for a minute beleive Beck is a 2%er.”

I thought it was 94%. Anyway, I would like to know the percentage of upright and patriotic Mormon support for that other pillar of intellect and integrity, the Honorable Senator Harry Reid.


103 posted on 04/12/2012 2:22:27 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
I'm so in maybe I should convert and become a bishop. :-)

Wouldn't that be a demotion for you?

104 posted on 04/12/2012 2:23:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mormon missionaries are Christianophobe bigots denigrating Christian faiths.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Frankly, I don’t what Jesus said or didn’t say, since everything we know about him was written long after he left. In fact, I believe that if Jesus was a wise teacher, whatever words he use about about being “saved” were intended symbolically or metaphorically. To put a finer point on it, I do not believe that a wise and loving “savior” or a wise and loving God would ever condemn people to hell based on some technicality of religious belief. In other words, I do believe that members of all religions can be admitted to heaven.

So, no, Jesus was not a bigot, nor was he dogmatic.


105 posted on 04/12/2012 2:24:52 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: NavyCanDo

“I do think your heads are going to explode when Palin, Rush, Levin, Savage, Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, Newt, and anyone else you attach your conservatism too, come out and support our nominee.”

I think your head would explode it it ever held an independent or original thought.


106 posted on 04/12/2012 2:25:40 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: CatherineofAragon

How do you know he actually said that? How do you know he meant it in the way you’ve interpreted it?


107 posted on 04/12/2012 2:27:08 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: sand lake bar
"Frankly, I don’t what Jesus said or didn’t say, since everything we know about him was written long after he left"

Totally, completely, one hundred percent false.

108 posted on 04/12/2012 2:30:28 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: VideoDoctor

DON’T GO THERE!:

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109 posted on 04/12/2012 2:32:14 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: itsahoot

Hate? You sound like a leftwinger. I don’t want to enrich a religion which contradicts Christianity. Sue me.


110 posted on 04/12/2012 2:33:19 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I will mark you down as a ‘no’, for burning incense before Caesar then.

Well done.

And see my tagline. If it is no big deal to him its no big deal for us, eh? We are who we are.


111 posted on 04/12/2012 2:35:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: tsowellfan
Glenn Beck has always been a closeted Romney supporter. He chose to support Santorum publically only to hide his real support for Romney.

I heard Beck make fun of Romney frequently. If he was a closet supporter he did a good job hiding it over the last year.

112 posted on 04/12/2012 2:35:53 PM PDT by alrea ("When justices veto legislative acts based on personal policy preferences, that's tyranny." M. Levin)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Yep, I did misread the first part. I’ll just say this: if Jesus was divine, God in human form, then I insist that there is no way he would endorse the interpretations of fundamentalists. Why would God create people who were more forgiving, indeed wiser than Him? Any God worthy of worship could never be conceived as one who would throw the most generous, loving, honest, ..., individuals into a flaming pit simply for having not said “Jesus, you are my savior!” The answer is that a wise loving God, a God worthy of worship would not.


113 posted on 04/12/2012 2:35:58 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Please explain why it is false.


114 posted on 04/12/2012 2:37:34 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: DannyTN
Going? Mormon Beck’s been all in for Mormon Mitt since the beginning

Yep....but he knew to lay low for a time....I hope Newt picks up somehow...we need to see that happen.

115 posted on 04/12/2012 2:43:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: Psalm 144

I read it’s around 65%


116 posted on 04/12/2012 2:56:25 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: sand lake bar

Jesus never condemned anyone to hell. People go there of their own free will, and Jesus provided a choice.


117 posted on 04/12/2012 3:01:18 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Two thirds support for Reid then.

Bad, but not quite as appalling. Thanks for the answer.


118 posted on 04/12/2012 3:03:10 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Psalm 144

Precisely. And thank you.


119 posted on 04/12/2012 3:04:45 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: sand lake bar
Please explain why it is false.

Why?

You gave no proof that YOUR assertion was true.


Please explain why it is false. "Frankly, I don’t what Jesus said or didn’t say, since everything we know about him was written long after he left"

120 posted on 04/12/2012 3:04:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sand lake bar
Calling someone else’s religion a “false religion” and the attacking them smells a little like bigotry to me.

Youi got THAT right!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

121 posted on 04/12/2012 3:07:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sand lake bar
Calling someone else’s religion a “false religion” and the attacking them smells a little like bigotry to me.

Youi got THAT right!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

122 posted on 04/12/2012 3:07:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sand lake bar

Oh, no, you don’t.

It isn’t God who sends you to hell; it’s your own choice. It isn’t His will that any of us go there. So don’t sit there, having made the decision to spurn Him, and try to shift the blame onto HIM. He extends His love to you and you reject Him. People tell you about Him, and you reject Him. If you should end up there, and I pray that won’t happen, the responsibility would lie with you.


123 posted on 04/12/2012 3:11:17 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Sybeck1
I don't think so. I'm sick so I stay in Barlett with my daughter most of the time now. I don't see Mike and Margret very often.
124 posted on 04/12/2012 3:32:00 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: sand lake bar

“No one comes to the Father but by Me”, is not an angry threat, it’s an invitation.

We ALL fall short of the Glory of God. Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, Jew, and all the worlds religions. And unbelievers as well. Stack all our good deeds up, the Biblical laws we have kept, and all the hours in church or on a mission trip, or in worship on Easter Sundays, and we have not come close to deserving what God has promised.
Our acceptance by God does not come from what church we join, or how good a life we live. The thief on the cross showed us that. By doing the unthinkable, the criminal asked Jesus, who he believed was, who he said he was, to have mercy on him in spite of his worthless life. Keep in mind, he was in no position to bargain. There was no “from now on”, no turning over a new leaf for him. He was a dead man talking. He had come to an end of his miserable life. But 4 little heart-felt words “have mercy on me” had Jesus push up on the nail that pierced his feet so he could utter these words, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise”. The thief accepted the invitation with 4 little words. Words that can be spoken by all human-kind in all languages.


125 posted on 04/12/2012 3:52:52 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: svcw

I think Beck will work hard to defeat this president.


126 posted on 04/12/2012 4:05:18 PM PDT by Nanny7
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To: Red Steel

Dream on, he was never gun ho for Romney, I love how people who don’t actually listen to Beck lie about him because they can’t stand him.


127 posted on 04/12/2012 4:12:32 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: sand lake bar
I do believe that members of all religions can be admitted to heaven.

WHICH Heaven...the telestial, terrestial or celestial?

128 posted on 04/12/2012 4:33:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mormon missionaries are Christianophobe bigots denigrating Christian faiths.)
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To: Nanny7

Yes? Because he is and always has been a supporter of the liberal Romney.
However, your statement has nothing to do with the question “what does our own mean”.


129 posted on 04/12/2012 4:39:20 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?cause)
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To: Nanny7

Yes? Because he is and always has been a supporter of the liberal Romney.
However, your statement has nothing to do with the question “what does our own mean”.


130 posted on 04/12/2012 4:39:39 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?cause)
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To: rockabyebaby
Dream on, he was never gun ho for Romney, I love how people who don’t actually listen to Beck lie about him because they can’t stand him.

BS baby. I listened to Beck over many months and he was in the tank with Romney. You can peruse all the recent Beck threads where you'll find that numerous posters have come to the same conclusion.

Beck has tanked on his radio show in my market that as of this week, he was taken off the air on KVOR and was replaced with with Huckabee's new show. And before that, Beck's time slot was switched with Mark Levin to give Levin the better time slot since his show is better and does better than Beck's show. It's been all downhill for Beck in this conservative area market.

131 posted on 04/12/2012 5:19:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: sand lake bar

“I do not believe that a wise and loving “savior” or a wise and loving God would ever condemn people to hell based on some technicality of religious belief. In other words, I do believe that members of all religions can be admitted to heaven.”

In other words, you have made up your own religion and are pretending it is true.
In other words, you have made up your own image of God and pretend that god exists.

Smells like mormonism!


132 posted on 04/12/2012 6:27:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldn’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: svcw

I thought I was clear.... By “our own” I mean all who want to defeat Obama in this election. Maybe you don’t want that to happen? Romney was not my first choice but I’ll vote for Romney given the choice between him and Obama, and I pray others will do the same. Four more years is unthinkable!


133 posted on 04/12/2012 6:33:17 PM PDT by Nanny7
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Smells like rational thought.


134 posted on 04/12/2012 7:30:53 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Baloney. I don’t reject God Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, don’t reject God.

If we are in his image, God must certainly be rational. Why would we expect God to be less merciful than man?


135 posted on 04/12/2012 7:34:22 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Elsie

Scholarly studies indicate that all gospels were written at least 50-60 years after Christ. None were written contemporaneously.


136 posted on 04/12/2012 7:37:13 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: svcw

Jesus, I believe spoke metaphorically. There is no pit of fire.


137 posted on 04/12/2012 7:38:49 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Nanny7
What I find fascinating is Romneybots and their absolute certainty that anyone who does not support the liberal called Romney wants BHO to remain as president.
Nothing could be further from political reality.
And even more fascinating is that Romneybots do not see nor understand that liberal called Romney is as liberal as BHO and will govern no differently than BHO, as evidenced by decades of word and deed.
138 posted on 04/12/2012 7:40:23 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?cause)
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To: sand lake bar

And you would be wrong.


139 posted on 04/12/2012 7:42:51 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?cause)
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To: NavyCanDo

I especially liked how 0bama is skewing the imagery of the Oval Office and removing its power to something other than what it has been in our history.

I expect that the Oval Office copy Beck now has may become the only one if 0bama is re-elected (and chops up the Resolute) or if he loses (and blows up the OO ).


140 posted on 04/12/2012 7:46:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: sand lake bar

Actually, it is irrationale, but it doesn’t sound as if you’ve thought the issues through. In any case I wish you the best.


141 posted on 04/12/2012 7:55:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldn’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Seriously, I’ve thought it through for dozens of years. How could God be less merciful, less forgiving than man?


142 posted on 04/12/2012 8:13:43 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: svcw

I don’t think so. But to each his own. My God is more merciful than I am. Otherwise, why would I believe in him?


143 posted on 04/12/2012 8:16:12 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: sand lake bar
There is being with God for eternity or being separated from God for eternity - the choice is yours and yours alone. My God has been merciful and willingly sacrificed His Son who took my sin upon Him that I might dwell in God's Glory for eternaty.
144 posted on 04/12/2012 8:56:50 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: sand lake bar; aMorePerfectUnion; CatherineofAragon; greyfoxx39
"Why would we expect God to be less merciful than man?" "How could God be less merciful, less forgiving than man?"

You keep repeating that (or it's variation) what is that supposed to mean, is there a "man"? Which man, what man?

145 posted on 04/12/2012 9:58:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet. Pope))
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To: sand lake bar
Jesus, I believe spoke metaphorically. There is no pit of fire.

Oh?

And what do the 'scholarly studies' tell us?




http://www.google.com/search?q=jesus+spoke+of+hell&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475

146 posted on 04/13/2012 3:47:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sand lake bar
Jesus, I believe spoke metaphorically. There is no pit of fire.

  Revelation 22:19 
 
And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in  this book.
 
 

Oops!

Revelation 19:20: And the beast[5] was taken, and with him the false prophet[6] that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Revelation 20:14-15 Then Death and Hades[7] were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.[8]

 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_of_fire


SLB; you'd better hope that JOHN wrote metaphorically; too!

147 posted on 04/13/2012 3:53:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sand lake bar
To put a finer point on it, I do not believe that a wise and loving “savior” or a wise and loving God would ever condemn people to hell based on some technicality of religious belief.


Romans 14:22
So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves.


John 3:16-18

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
 
 
So I guess that John was just trying to be a bigot and a demagog.

148 posted on 04/13/2012 3:59:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Psalm 144
I think your head would explode it it ever held an independent or original thought.

"When the Prophet speaks; the thinking has been done."

http://www.mormonstudies.net/html/misc_author/thinking_done.html

149 posted on 04/13/2012 4:02:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sand lake bar
How do you know he actually said that? How do you know he meant it in the way you’ve interpreted it?

In like manner...


How do you know he DIDN'T actually said that? How do you know he meant it in the way you’ve 'believe' it 'should' be?

150 posted on 04/13/2012 4:04:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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