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Where’s the ‘Probable Cause’?
national review ^ | 4-13-12 | John Lott

Posted on 04/13/2012 7:05:10 PM PDT by doug from upland

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To: RIghtwardHo

lol

so now just that act of “carrying a gun” and walking through you neighborhood against the advice of an opperator is proof that you are “evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life”

ROFL

this is a screwed up world.


41 posted on 04/13/2012 8:06:17 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

It may go beyond the “Stand Your Ground” law which the liberals want to get rid of. It’s the right of self-defense. If someone is beating you up and threatening to kill you, and you save your own life but the attacker winds up dead, you can be put away for life...at least if the attacker is a member of a protected group.


42 posted on 04/13/2012 8:09:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: samtheman

I sure hope you are wrong but I would no longer bet a nickel on it.


43 posted on 04/13/2012 8:10:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tau Food

Have you listened to the 911 call in its entirety? It’s available at the Sanford PD site. 911 guy said “We don’t need you doing that” ( following Martin). Zim said “OK” then conversed with 911 guy about where his truck was. He had lost sight of Martin and walked on a bit further until he could find an address to tell police. He was arranging to meet police. It is a stunning audio and nothing like conventional wisdom.


44 posted on 04/13/2012 8:14:00 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Tau Food

You may call this nit picking but he was not told to stop following Trayvon.

The words were, “you don’t need to do that.”

The half-truth has become so prevalent now most people believe it.


45 posted on 04/13/2012 8:17:30 PM PDT by altura
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To: visualops

Okay, I should have looked up “Capital crime” in a dictionary
first.

So long as the penalty for the offense is not death, then
a grand jury is not required. Got it.

Mike


46 posted on 04/13/2012 8:20:33 PM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: doug from upland

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf

“Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head.”


47 posted on 04/13/2012 8:22:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: RIghtwardHo
following when told not to gets you there

That might be more persuasive if the facts supported you, champ.

They don't.

48 posted on 04/13/2012 8:24:13 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Charging Zimmerman is an EASY call.

How about CONVICTING Zimmerman? Could this be why he was not charged initially?


49 posted on 04/13/2012 8:25:49 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: RIghtwardHo

To clarify:

1) He wasn’t told not to. The dispatcher said, “We don’t need you to do that.”

2) He responded in 2 ways: A) He said, “OK.” and B) He headed back toward his truck.


50 posted on 04/13/2012 8:27:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: doug from upland

So a latino wannabe cop encountered a black wannabe gangsta thug on that fateful night and now all the white people are being blamed. It’s a perfect storm.


51 posted on 04/13/2012 8:28:35 PM PDT by 38special (Only fools believe the liberal media)
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To: savedbygrace
Take out mob rule and coward politicians and put rule of law in and Zimmerman is never arrested.

Unfortunately foe Zimmerman, cowardly politicans and mob rule is what happening today. Therefore Zimmerman is in trouble. If his lawyer has not advised him that,judging by today's political climate, he can look forward to being convicted and a long prison sentence. I don't like it but that is the way things go.

52 posted on 04/13/2012 8:36:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: Tau Food

The dispatcher (not a police officer) advised Zimmerman, and I quote, “You don’t have to do that.” Falls somewhat short of an order or directive,


53 posted on 04/13/2012 8:38:30 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: RIghtwardHo
"25 years of Prosecution here." Serious? He STOPS when the dispatch says he doesn't need to be following. Did you listen to the call? NO YOU DIDN'T DID YOU. I shudder to think of someone so arrogantly oblivious as you and the possibility of the innocent people you might have railroaded into prison in your "25 years".
54 posted on 04/13/2012 8:40:38 PM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: RIghtwardHo
People who are pathetically ill-informed about this case will weigh in too and some people will buy their BS.
55 posted on 04/13/2012 8:44:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: altura

It’s not nitpicking at all. Words are supposed to have meaning. Taken literally (which is the only way that words from a 911 operator should be taken), the operator merely stated what he didn’t need. At best, it was a very ambiguous statement. It would have been perfectly reasonable for Zimmerman to respond: “That’s okay, I don’t mind”. For all we know, that’s what Zimmerman was thinking.


56 posted on 04/13/2012 8:45:35 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ntnychik

“Have you listened to the 911 call in its entirety? “

We have to weigh the fact a huge number of people here don’t research ANYTHING on their own.

They just “watch tv”.

That how they get their information and make their judgements.

By watching a “TV”. That’s how they get their “facts”.

Frightening. This has been going on for WEEKS and all that wealth of information is out there and still these people don’t remotely grasp the logical chain of events.


57 posted on 04/13/2012 8:48:42 PM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: The Duke

Reminiscent of Mike Nifong.


58 posted on 04/13/2012 9:06:50 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: doublecansiter; All
When was he given a positive order not to follow?

It never happened. When asked if he was following, Zimmerman responded affirmatively and the dispatcher only said, "We don’t need you to do that."

That is not an order. That is not a warning (like CBS characterized it).

Such perpetuated characterizations are false, misleading an affront to justice.

It ranks up there with NBC's blatant racist editing of the 911 call and CNN's magically discovered (and later undiscovered) "racial slur" in the 911 call.

The deliberate perversion and narrative shaping seen in the Media coverage and from race-based activists is truly appalling, wholly unacceptable and needs repudiating at every turn.

59 posted on 04/13/2012 9:07:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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