Posted on 04/14/2012 9:05:19 AM PDT by redreno
At 4:45 p.m. on March 1, Jamal Tarhuni boarded an Amtrak train in Portland and settled in for a 36-hour ride to Minneapolis.
There, he spoke at the annual Nobel Peace Prize forum about his experiences in Libya as a relief organization volunteer. He then drove for 17 hours over two days with a friend to Washington, D.C., to attend a reception for the Libyan prime minister and meet with U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden's staff.
Afterward, Tarhuni retraced his steps -- by car to Minneapolis and train to Portland -- ultimately spending more than 100 hours traveling a route that could be covered by plane in 12.
This is Tarhuni's new life in the slow lane, courtesy of the federal government and its no-fly list. The roster names some 20,000 people, including about 500 U.S. citizens like Tarhuni, who are barred from flying because they are believed to be an air-terrorism threat.
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Why do these muslim loser bastards always end up in Minneapolis? WTF?
Take the slow train through Nebraska next time, you goat raper!
When that happens, being unable to get on a plane will be the least of our problems. Or the government's.
If stressing over unconstitutional government abuse is your thing, you may want to consider a bigger and universal abuse affecting everybody not just mainly phony citizens who help plan and execute terrorist plots.
Try the IRS. They can preemptively seize everything you own and make your family homeless on the assumption that you might owe taxes, without proof.
I always ask, is bill ayers on the no-fly list?
Yes, the IRS seizure powers (and, really, most LE seizure powers) are unconstitutional, and appalling abuses of power. That doesn’t make the no-fly list any more constitutional. And yes, the folks on the no-fly list may well be ‘fake citizens’ who plan attacks. That doesn’t mean the govt should be able to restrict their liberty without due process. Our entire system of government, the whole Constitution, is based on the notion that people (and in particular, people who seek power via positions in government) are imperfect. That’s why there are checks and balances in place, to make sure exercises of govt power (in particular, where such exercises restrict the rights of citizens) are not arbitrarily undertaken. The no-fly list (and IRS and other seizure powers) fly in the face of this principle.
From the article:
The FBI will not comment on its reasons for blocking Tarhuni -- even to him. And Tarhuni is at a loss for how to defend himself against accusations that no one will divulge.
This is the real outrage; the 5th Amendment says: "nor [shall a person] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" -- the lists, as is, are precisely the sort of liberty that the 5th was supposed to protect, for how can a man answer charges against him if they are kept forever secret? Further, how can there be a 'due process' if there is no way to be removed from the list? (Or, if we're using the presence of the man's name on the list the 5th also says "No person shall be held to answer for a[n] infamous crime unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury" with some exceptions, none of which are applicable here.)
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