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To: redreno

The vast majority of these 20k folks...didn’t get on the no-fly list by accident. So I don’t have any heartburn about them discovering the wonderful roads and highways of America. We have lots of people who never travel by aircraft....by their own desires.


2 posted on 04/14/2012 9:10:27 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

“So I don’t have any heartburn about them discovering the wonderful roads and highways of America.”

Nor will I when YOUR name is surreptitiously added with no chance of appeal onto the list. If you think pro lifers, 2nd amendment supporters or small government advocates won’t be added at some point you’re living in a dream world.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 9:17:09 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: pepsionice

Apparently you have never seen the stories of 7-year-olds that happen to be on that pristine list of bureaucratic perfection.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 9:18:43 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: pepsionice

“The vast majority of these 20k folks...didn’t get on the no-fly list by accident.”

Similar to the McCarthy bunch...who actually were Communists intent on overthrowing the government to create something in the image of Stalin.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 10:12:41 AM PDT by BobL
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To: pepsionice
The vast majority of these 20k folks...didn’t get on the no-fly list by accident.

Well, the intended sob story suggests otherwise. I just anticipate the mindless "if it saves one innocent person for negative special treatment..." doofuses to come out of the woodwork.

17 posted on 04/14/2012 10:15:17 AM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: pepsionice
The vast majority of these 20k folks...didn’t get on the no-fly list by accident.

From the article:

The FBI will not comment on its reasons for blocking Tarhuni -- even to him. And Tarhuni is at a loss for how to defend himself against accusations that no one will divulge.

This is the real outrage; the 5th Amendment says: "nor [shall a person] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" -- the lists, as is, are precisely the sort of liberty that the 5th was supposed to protect, for how can a man answer charges against him if they are kept forever secret? Further, how can there be a 'due process' if there is no way to be removed from the list? (Or, if we're using the presence of the man's name on the list the 5th also says "No person shall be held to answer for a[n] infamous crime unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury" with some exceptions, none of which are applicable here.)

27 posted on 04/16/2012 5:58:20 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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