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Time to throw out 'myth' of recycling [9 years ago, Sweden determined Al Gore was full of crap]
The Washington Times ^ | March 4, 2003

Posted on 04/15/2012 1:45:30 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Throw away the green and blue bags and forget those trips to return bottles recycling household waste is a load of, well, rubbish, say leading environmentalists and waste campaigners. In a reversal of decades-old wisdom, they argue that burning cardboard, plastics and food leftovers is better for the environment and the economy than recycling. They dismiss household trash separation a practice encouraged by the green lobby as a waste of time and money.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: green; greenenergy; recycling
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Came across this story, and thought it was worth repeating...imagine ten years ago, even the envirnomentalists knew incineration was better than the stupid recycling/green job crap.

Obama and Al Gore can cram it.

1 posted on 04/15/2012 1:45:38 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

this whole thing was devised to make Algore wealthy.


2 posted on 04/15/2012 1:48:41 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: SoFloFreeper

I throw my garbage at my libtard neighbor’s yard.


3 posted on 04/15/2012 1:51:21 PM PDT by max americana
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To: SoFloFreeper

Here in florida they hand out green bins for recycables. So then this massive truck runs through the neighborhoods picking up the contents of these bins. I’d wager the truck creates far more waste than the contents of the stupid bins.


4 posted on 04/15/2012 1:54:28 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: max americana

mark for later


5 posted on 04/15/2012 1:54:48 PM PDT by BattleHymn
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Recycled bottles cost glass companies twice as much as the raw materials, “

I had no idea! I just figured glass would be easy to re-melt, and re-use! Search for Penn and Teller’s expose’ of recycling.


6 posted on 04/15/2012 1:55:53 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It all depends on what you’re trying to recycle. Its generally more economical to recycle metals but recycling paper is a complete and utter waste of time.


7 posted on 04/15/2012 1:55:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Metal is worth recycling. Pretty much everything else is not.

Old cotton can be used to make paper but I don't think they buy rags anymore.

8 posted on 04/15/2012 2:00:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

P&T came to the same conclusion that only metals recycling held anything of value. Melting and recasting/rolling metal is much cheaper than digging and processing new ore. Everything else is Bullsh!t!


9 posted on 04/15/2012 2:01:20 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SoFloFreeper
I remember reading a paper back int eh late 1970s or 1980s where someone did am expending resources/energy calculation on recycling. They found it burned far more energy and created far more waste by- products trying to recycle old plastic products rather then destroying and making new ones.
10 posted on 04/15/2012 2:04:06 PM PDT by Reily
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well, well. It took them all this time to figure out that recycling, in some significant part, is a bust. Wonder how many decades it will take them to figure out that trying to manipulate the level of CO2 in the atmosphere is a bust as well?


11 posted on 04/15/2012 2:06:19 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
id' like to see the numbers on that... cullet is an important ingredient in glass manufacturing
12 posted on 04/15/2012 2:09:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Reily

Here in Sunrise FL (dws’s district, and home of the Florida Panthers NHL SE Div winner) the city gave every home a giant wheeled 65gal bin (larger than my trash can. Must’ve cost a lot.


13 posted on 04/15/2012 2:10:29 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

A woman in our office expressed her horror, when I threw away a plastic bottle one day.

I told her it takes more energy to recycle a plastic bottle, than it does to make a new one.

How do I know that, she asked?

Nobody pays me for plastic, like they do with aluminum. Sooo...since the cost of a mass produced item, made out of a commodity like plastic, is essentially the cost of energy to produce and ship...it is an easy conclusion to make.

I have similar suspicions that windmills take more energy to produce, than what they will ever generate.

BTW, she gave me the ‘you just shanked a baby panda’ look, and walked off.


14 posted on 04/15/2012 2:12:59 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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P&T came to the same conclusion that only metals recycling held anything of value. Melting and recasting/rolling metal is much cheaper than digging and processing new ore. Everything else is Bullsh!t!

I would agree except for glass. Why else would glass manufacturers simply send the jars out of bad molds right back to the furnace? Although transportation adds a bit to cost glass is recyclable.

On the other hand, I don't recycle. I refuse to simply give up my material so someone else can make money off of it. If they were to pay me for it I would go through the trouble.

15 posted on 04/15/2012 2:14:45 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Last week I threw a broken wooden chair into the plastic bin because it had a small piece of plastic under it and some enviromental nut pulled it out. I thought, Fine.

When they say plastic they are mental about it.


16 posted on 04/15/2012 2:17:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (If you quit you don't get your miracle.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Recycleing cans and bottles is kinda like a welfare work program we pay for it with crv’s deposits and bums a drug addicts collect the stuff from our trash cans and recycle bins and from the streets and take them in for cash most urban areas you will never find a can or bottle anywhere


17 posted on 04/15/2012 2:20:18 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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. They found it burned far more energy and created far more waste by- products trying to recycle old plastic products rather then destroying and making new ones.

And, thus, it is the perfect liberal economic stimulus. Don't forget about the wages of the collectors and sorters. It's all wasted.

My previous employer had become permeated with the recycling disease. They even took away the wastebaskets from our desks to make us cut down on wastepaper (we all put grocery bags underneath them.) When I would occasionally ask if the company was profiting from all this recycling, I would be met with hostile stares.

Decades of recycling propaganda will not be easy to erase.

18 posted on 04/15/2012 2:21:25 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: raybbr

I agree, I think glass is relatively economical to recycle.

It really depends a lot on what you intend to recycle things into. Rubber and plastics are a decent filler for some construction materials like asphalt and concrete.


19 posted on 04/15/2012 2:24:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: lacrew

The state of California charges me 5 cents to drink out of a soda can.

I want (and get) that money back.

Fortunately for me, there’s a can/bottle redemption kiosk not far from where I live.


20 posted on 04/15/2012 2:29:02 PM PDT by thecodont
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