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Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
msnbc.com ^ | April 18, 2012 | Kari Huus

Posted on 04/18/2012 6:42:45 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

A recent decision by the Marine Corps to reinstate "Crusaders" as the name of its Fighter Attack Squadron 122 — replacing "Werewolves" — and adopting the red cross of the medieval Knights Templar was blasted as unconstitutional and willfully ignorant by a civil rights group Wednesday.

"I don’t know that the Marine Corps could do anything more to fuel the cause of jihad," said Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a nonprofit organization that advocates church-state separation. "It will directly end up taking lives and maiming members of our military." Advertise | AdChoices

VMFA-122 based out of Beaufort, S.C., used the Crusaders symbol from 1958 up to 2008, when Lt. Col. William Lieblein pointed out that imagery invoking the Christian conquest and colonization of Muslims during the Middle Ages was counterproductive to U.S. soldiers based across the Arab and Islamic world.

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41 posted on 04/18/2012 7:55:40 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (chirping birds + basket weavers who sit + smile + twiddle their thumbs + toes They're coming to take)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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42 posted on 04/18/2012 7:57:28 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (chirping birds + basket weavers who sit + smile + twiddle their thumbs + toes They're coming to take)
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To: icwhatudo

THANK YOU! I am glad that someone noted the FACTS!

The Crusade was a counter-offensive against Muslim invasions which had pushed thru the middle east and finally set off the Christians when they invaded Gaul! The Christians, much like American conservatives, kept giving and giving and giving until they decided the time had come to set things RIGHT!


43 posted on 04/18/2012 7:59:35 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: NTHockey
We had just received brand new F8U-2NE Crusaders

I remember that!

Terry and the Pirates told us where you were...

44 posted on 04/18/2012 8:03:54 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1184 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: mckenzie7

I am a former Marine and I have been able to trace my ancestry back to several crusaders and two family lines back to Charles Martel. Hoo Rah! Piss on the sons of pig f’n dogs.

Christian invasion of muslim lands my ass!


46 posted on 04/18/2012 8:05:04 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

MAG-31/MALS-31. 400 Div. Ooh-rah!

Next they’ll tell trip-tre to lose the Shamrocks because it’s Insensitive to folks of Irish descent.

Eff the whiners...


49 posted on 04/18/2012 8:10:56 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: ansel12

Whinestein and his Dependers can kiss my Hoorah

Semper Fi.


50 posted on 04/18/2012 8:10:55 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ghannonf18

Good post.


51 posted on 04/18/2012 8:11:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

they’ll fold just like they have over southern stuff and iron cross


52 posted on 04/18/2012 8:14:05 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mikey Weinstein is a Jewish activist with a hard on for the Christian Right.

he has quite a history and it is not exactly what many here would think.


53 posted on 04/18/2012 8:18:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What was wrong with the Crusades?


54 posted on 04/18/2012 8:19:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Noble

It didn’t eliminate the threat.


55 posted on 04/18/2012 8:27:22 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1184 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Time to change my tagline.

Remember Hattin!!!


56 posted on 04/18/2012 8:27:56 PM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: mckenzie7

Charles Martel (23 August 686 – 22 October 741), also known as Charles the Hammer, was a Frankish military and political leader, Charlie was the original “Hammer Time”.
He is remembered for winning the Battle of Tours in 732, in which he defeated an invading Moorish army and halted northward Islamic expansion in western Europe. He was also the father of Pepin the Short and grandfather of Charlemagne.


57 posted on 04/18/2012 8:29:03 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

VMF-122 was originally named the Werewolves, switching to the “Crusaders” upon transition to the F-8 (which was named “Crusader”).

They reverted back to “Werewolves” several years back because of cultural sensitivities with them deploying to the Middle East. However they managed to slyly retain a lot of their “Crusaders” symbolism. Look closely at the eyes of the Werewolf that adorns the tails of their F/A-18s, for instance.


58 posted on 04/18/2012 8:29:11 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Jim Noble

The Crusaders didn’t finish the job ...


59 posted on 04/18/2012 8:32:14 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Next they’ll tell trip-tre to lose the Shamrocks because it’s Insensitive to folks of Irish descent.

There is no VMFA-333 anymore. It was disestablished during the 1990s drawdowns.
60 posted on 04/18/2012 8:33:05 PM PDT by tanknetter
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