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Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model?
Click here if you wish to continue the donor based business model and free participation for all ^ | April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: trisham; JoeProBono

Boy is Joe’s face red!


461 posted on 04/20/2012 1:29:01 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Be paranoid. Be very paranoid.)
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To: Gator113

Thanks - I’ve suggested these before but have been ignored. Now with the prospect of banner ads you’d think they’d at least try it. Sigh.

The Arby’s thing was intended as just that, humor/yuck! although apparently there are people who eat there. ;-)


462 posted on 04/20/2012 1:38:49 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: altura
And, yes, a majority of people here agree with me but, sadly, they are afraid to post their opinions for fear of receiving ugly comments or being banned.

I agree with you.

463 posted on 04/20/2012 1:41:03 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: JoeProBono

:)


464 posted on 04/20/2012 1:46:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Windflier
....."As to Jim's Mission Statement, that answers the confusions about his policies regarding free speech 'rights' on his website..... As long as Free Republic is his property (which it most assuredly is),.... he gets to 'define' the goals, purposes, and policy of the site.... Folks who want to stray outside the boundaries of his very clear statements regarding this, are essentially going out of agreement with his Mission Statement. ...... It couldn't be any clearer to me...... There's nothing unambiguous about it. It's almost laughable to me that some people continue to be baffled when he shows someone the exit who disagrees.".......

I agree....and it is baffling why some don't get this. With Newt still standing in this race, and folks knowing what stands at risk in the general...why on earth they're 'already' supporting Romney defies imagination, IF indeed they are the conservatives they claim.

Further the threads evidence more than just wanting to see Obama out...it often seems like they're 'Promoting Romney". Why do so when they surely know how Jim and others here see Romney as equal to Obama? To me they are asking for discord and to be challenged.... it's just the way it looks on the threads.

I think the anger and bitterness we see is their efforts to change peoples minds about Romney isn't working, rather they're being challenged head on, and yet they want to air their opinions favorable about him none the less. And this is why some are attacking other posters....

465 posted on 04/20/2012 1:47:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tunehead54

LOL... I knew it was a joke... and I don’t eat there. ;>)


466 posted on 04/20/2012 2:21:02 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: caww

Well said, caww.


467 posted on 04/20/2012 2:21:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: caww
...the threads evidence more than just wanting to see Obama out...it often seems like they're 'Promoting Romney". Why do so when they surely know how Jim and others here see Romney as equal to Obama? To me they are asking for discord and to be challenged.... it's just the way it looks on the threads.

Good observation, caww. Those who are abandoning their alleged principles, and who are advocating that we throw our support to Romney, seem to become emotional when we don't buy their arguments.

When our refusals to join them in their headlong rush toward a new Socialist master escalate, they scream and cry that we're being foolish, or that we're essentially voting for Obama. When Jim has finally had enough, and shows a few of these people the door, their sympathizers begin crying 'foul!'

Enough. Some of us simply won't be coaxed or bullied into accepting the left's terms of surrender, no matter the outcome. I'd rather stand and fight an avowed enemy, than relax my guard and get a shiv in my back from a Trojan horse traitor.

468 posted on 04/20/2012 2:25:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: caww

Good post, as always.

I don’t think of them Romney supporters, I think of them as Surender Monkeys.


469 posted on 04/20/2012 2:26:06 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Tunehead54; zeugma; Jim Robinson; FReepers; FRiends; DJ MacWoW; trisham; RedMDer; JoeProBono; ...

A whole lot of our loyal, generous and steadfast FReepers donate every FReepathon, by their state’s and via mail-in donations. They just don’t donate monthly for their own reasons.

I think that’s the difficulty I think we would encounter with acknowledgements of donors, in a tier system, given that many elect to remain anonymous and I’m sure they’re some of our most generous donors. Only Jim knows their identities and likely not, or not necessarily, their matching screen names.

A Premiere Membership might need a little more thought, but not if it were not apparent to others, only to the user/member, in that all ads were blocked for the Premiere Member. Understand what I’m trying to relate?


470 posted on 04/20/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Publius6961

Mine is an estimate, based on the fact that our minimum donation is $3.00 and that all credit cards and pay pal burn a processing fee. I think it’s a percentage of 1.5% and upwards and approximately $2 per $100. It’s the normal cost of doing business.


471 posted on 04/20/2012 2:49:51 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson

I understand and I agree. It’s more complicated than it may appear. For me, whatever Jim decides I will support. I love this site as it is, but it is his decision, and his is the final word.


472 posted on 04/20/2012 2:51:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Windflier
Those who are.. 'abandoning their alleged principles',.... and who are advocating 'that we throw our support to Romney', seem to become emotional when we don't buy their arguments.

Their problem is you cannot 'Hold those Principles',... (though you might claim them which doesn't make it so),... and at the same time 'Promote a Romney vote' with a clear conscious....especially while seeking to justify that vote to those who understand the two are diametrically in opposition to each other.....'Cognitive dissonance'....

......Which is a Discomfort caused by holding 'conflicting cognition's' ...(e.g., ideas, beliefs, values, emotional reactions) simultaneously..... In a state of dissonance, people may feel surprise, dread, guilt, anger, or embarrassment.....

We see their discomfort playing out in the discussions. I would add, if they are Christians all the more this is apparent. Their only "escape" is to lash out and or continue trying to promote Romney favorably as the alternative to Obama,..( who isn't running in this Primary)...add in the Newt factor, as he still running.....well you get a mess of course!

473 posted on 04/20/2012 2:57:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: greyfoxx39

Greyfoxx, please do not assume I support the man. He’s the worst choice the pubbies could have ever made. He is not, however, Obama. Unless they manage to switch nominees, I will vote for him rather than face another 4 years with Obama expanding his dictatorial powers. If Romney wins, we have a huge job ahead of us: we have to work, really work HARD to transform the Republican Party. This nation needs no less.

As for an opus—any time someone expresses a thought on here that annoys the mods, that post can become an opus, whether or not it was intended as such. I would prefer not to opus out. Getting zotted is another matter.


474 posted on 04/20/2012 3:06:06 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: onyx; Tunehead54; zeugma; Jim Robinson; FReepers; FRiends; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; trisham; ...
A Premiere Membership might need a little more thought, but not if it were not apparent to others, only to the user/member, in that all ads were blocked for the Premiere Member. Understand what I’m trying to relate?

IMHO, Readily identified donors is not the way to go.

Some would prefer not to be identified.

Debate could be stifled in a "class" system. Some may be intimidated not to partake in a debate with an identified "donor" and we all could the poorer for missing their ideas.

475 posted on 04/20/2012 3:14:28 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Gator113
I don’t think of them Romney supporters, I think of them as Surender Monkeys.

I do think we have 'both' on these threads. When you follow their posts it generally becomes evident which are truly supporting Romney and those who are "afraid" Not to vote for Romney. Then you have those who are both afraid AND Supoorting Romney.

Either or anyway they vote....there will be no line on their ballot to explain why they are voting for Romney....it's a "FOR" Romney vote,... and 'FOR' his platform...and that is what will be recorded.

476 posted on 04/20/2012 3:17:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: RedMDer; Tunehead54; zeugma; Jim Robinson; FReepers; FRiends; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; trisham; ...

Right. If we have to go to ads, I am merely trying to think of an avenue that could permit donors of a certain amount to have those ads blocked, but not so that others who do not donate would be aware.


477 posted on 04/20/2012 3:22:22 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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478 posted on 04/20/2012 3:23:05 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: onyx

Onyx, you do know about the ad-blocking add-ons for browsers, don’t you? They also block pop ups, and I think some block those “sticky-footers” as well. Would people really pay more for blocked ads, when they could block them on their own for free?


479 posted on 04/20/2012 3:25:32 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: MizSterious
He is not, however, Obama. Unless they manage to switch nominees, I will vote for him rather than face another 4 years with Obama

Consider this post by Doughty One carefully.

Here

I have been working on FR since 2007 to defeat Romney who is, in my estimation as big a threat to liberty as Obama. I have lived in areas controlled by mormons. I see no difference. Obama coats his goal in class and race while Romney hides that his is coated 100% in his chosen sect. The end goal is basically the same for both.

Again, I am surprised and saddened that you can support Romney given our past history.

480 posted on 04/20/2012 3:26:33 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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