Eye See
Posted on 04/22/2012 6:21:10 PM PDT by marktwain
“9-year-old suspended after he says he stood up to a bully,” a Fox 31 Denver report informs us
Third-grader Nathan Pemberton “was kicked out of school Tuesday after he says he stood up to a bully who was beating him up.”
“One kid kicked me in the back, then punched me in the face. Then I punched him in the face, and then I got in trouble,” he says.”
The school has a “no tolerance” policy that results in an automatic suspension, regardless of who started a fight. In other words, children are required by law to attend—under legal truancy penalties if they don’t comply—and then forbidden to defend themselves from other inmates.
“District 11 schools employ many anti-bullying teaching techniques,” spokesperson Devra Ashby said in a public statement, “and none of these methods include violence or retaliation.”
“9-year-old suspended after he says he stood up to a bully,” a Fox 31 Denver report informs us
Third-grader Nathan Pemberton “was kicked out of school Tuesday after he says he stood up to a bully who was beating him up.”
“One kid kicked me in the back, then punched me in the face. Then I punched him in the face, and then I got in trouble,” he says.”
The school has a “no tolerance” policy that results in an automatic suspension, regardless of who started a fight. In other words, children are required by law to attend—under legal truancy penalties if they don’t comply—and then forbidden to defend themselves from other inmates.
“District 11 schools employ many anti-bullying teaching techniques,” spokesperson Devra Ashby said in a public statement, “and none of these methods include violence or retaliation.”
One wonders, were someone physically violating Ms. Ashby, if she’d insist that she, too, would deserve punishment for fighting back.
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“I’m talking suburban whitebread schools not inner city gang bangs in the bathroom sort of joints”
Today, there’s really no difference. The meth sales/sex et all in my daughter’s schools in the 2000-2006ish era were every bit the whitebread “good” schools. It’s pathetic how bad it is now. And the boards/teachers (no not all but most) just pretend it isn’t.
Some of the stories I heard from her blew my mind. And as I only graduated in 83, I’m not that old. Nor am I a prude. Far from it. Things ‘we’ couldn’t find in a XXX shop then are commonplace in schools ‘facilities’ today.
Such is the ‘culture’ vested on our kids by liberalism.
Government socialist-entitlement K-12 schooling is our nation's **MOST** serious threat! I seriously doubt that our nation will survive one more generation of voters being subjected to it.
Yet....Conservatives foolishly believe that their child's school is somehow "different". They believe they can deprogram in a few minutes at home the hours of godless and socialist indoctrination to which the child is exposed day after day. Geeze! Liberals don't need to have kids. They get to fill the hearts and minds of the children of conservatives for 13 years, and more, when the kid goes to college.
Personally, I have made a decision. I can no longer have a government school worker for a friend. They are either too evil, too stupid, or too much of a Useful Idiot to be a friend. Yes, government schooling is **that** evil for the child as an individual and for our nation's future.
I remember that post! “I’ll eat your eyes!” is one of my favorite lines ever written here on FR.
Classic. And similar to the advice my own Marine Daddy gave me as a girl: “Never start a fight. Never be a bully, but if someone starts a fight with you...fight dirty.”
I didn’t have to fight too often after that first time...and it didn’t hurt that by the time I was in high school I was nearly six feet tall. And a redhead. Bullies stayed way clear of me.
Regards,
PS: I too find that punishing the kid defending himself to be ridiculous. In reality, such a kid should be given a commendation from the school and an extra brownie at lunch. Only the bully should be punished — and it’s horsehockey that the teachers don’t know damn right well who the bullies are.
I’m pleased to say I had a role in his being denied tenure. Sometimes tge system works.
If you’re going to go down, go down swinging.
I've discovered that if I start with, “I'll eat your eyes out,” it's enough to scare the bejeezus out of them without need for physicality. You just have to be convincing.
Several experiences as an adult have given me greater appreciation of my childhood neighborhood self-defense practice with friends. Eating eyes out is just one, injuring a pick pocket another, and showing a firearm to a mugger another.
There is little better than learning real self-confidence in childhood instead of the fake one they propagandize kids with in schools today.
I’m a reporter. I cover school boards as part of my work and I’ve seen how the anti-bullying policies work in theory and practice.
Having lived and worked in inner-city environments in the past, I’m not unaware of the problems of gang warfare in the schools and I understand the reasons for these zero-tolerance policies. There are situations in which it is simply impossible to tell who is the victim and who is the perpetrator because in most cases all sides in the fight are engaged in verbal or physical intimidation of other groups, and banning all violence may seem at first to make sense. In environments like that, everybody but the gangbangers is already afraid to fight back because they assume anyone threatening violence is armed and can call on numerous fellow gang members to back them up.
However, apart from gang warfare environments, these anti-bullying policies have turned schoolyard stupidity into a situation where the cure is worse than the disease. These policies are punishing victims and teaching “learned helplessness.”
I’m all for protecting victims who can’t defend themselves or for whatever reason choose not to do so, but defending oneself is not wrong.
It will take a few years before the policies change, but so many bullying victims are being punished for defending themselves that I believe parents will eventually deal with this at the voting booth if teachers don’t start rejecting the policies.
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