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1 posted on 04/28/2012 5:15:58 AM PDT by IbJensen
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Sigh, I wonder if Ms. Strassel has ever read the Federalist Papers? So many of the “debates” we are having are explicitly addressed by our founders. Take this issue, in fact, what she’s really talking about is what Hamilton and Madison referred to as “factionalism”, addressed in depth in Federalists 9 and 10.

They aren’t hard to read - a little old and some colloquialisms - but the meaning is plain. They felt that democracy had within it an inherent risk that its politics would devolve into a factionalism in which politicians would manipulate coalitions of minorities or outright majorities to “vote” impingements on other “group’s” liberty.

They were terrified of it actually. They claimed it would destroy our ‘experiment in self-government’. They believed that free, self-governing citizens would need to engage their reason and understand that the limits classical liberal ideas place on government served all Americans and that they traduced another’s liberty at their own peril. Hamilton, Madison and Jefferson are on the record in many ways on this topic. Factionalism is un-American - a word I don’t use lightly.

Ergo, Obama is un-American in his use of factionalism as a political strategy, and is at odds with the very idea of limited democracy. People miss that the reason Obama is anti-capitalist and so enamored of the power of the state is that he - and every other Progressive=Social Justice Fetishist=Marxist - reject the moral philosophy which informed the very construction of our liberty. He thinks they, and those of us who still adhere to the classical liberal ideas of Madison and Jefferson, are wrong and clinging to a disproved ideology. Our founders sought to limit the ability of people like Obama who sought to use democracy (mob rule) to violate the liberty of classes of people he decides don’t deserve the same liberty as other groups.


2 posted on 04/28/2012 5:18:40 AM PDT by IbJensen ( I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what 0 does with mine)
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The IRS is reported to be aggressively and some people seem to believe abusively auditing Republican and Tea Party candidates in the past and upcoming elections.


3 posted on 04/28/2012 5:19:43 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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The Nixon enemies list was actually Dean’s list but Ofcourse was attributed to Nixon for political purposes. I can’t say that Nixon was without reproach but he was a piker when you take into consideration the administrations of LBJ, Clinton and obama


4 posted on 04/28/2012 5:30:32 AM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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Kim rocks. Obama twiddles his thumbs when he’s not sucking them.


5 posted on 04/28/2012 5:30:44 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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Obama has an enemies list?

Can I be on it? Please, please, please...


7 posted on 04/28/2012 5:32:04 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: IbJensen

Rules for Radicals.


15 posted on 04/28/2012 6:25:54 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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I would dearly love to see one or more of these “enemies” of Obama start a major ad campaign and directly challenge Obama and his justice department. Something along the lines of:

“Mr. Obama and his regime’s Just-us department have chosen target myself personally and the Corporation that I am CEO of for having the temerity to exercise my right of free speech in by donating my time and funds to a candidate that is opposing him in the upcoming election.

And here I thought that “Enemies Lists” were not acceptable and were one of the things that caused President Nixon to resign from his office.”

You can add more but now is the time to stand up to Obama because if he wins in November? All bets are off...


18 posted on 04/28/2012 6:52:17 AM PDT by The Working Man
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While Clinton brought new levels, never before seen, of sexual misconduct, and possibly sexual assault, to the White House, the Obama Regime has effectively brought a new level of disgrace to the White House. He's brought "Chicago Thug Politics" directly into the Oval Office. Other presidents like Clinton at least tried to have their minions hide their actions. Obama actively participates in the intimidation and blackmail. And he doesn't care who knows it, primarily since he knows that the ministry of propaganda won't be reporting it to the (as Neil Boortz puts it) "Dumb (m)Asses."

Mark

19 posted on 04/28/2012 6:54:44 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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With Obama’s skills in intimidation and threats he will be a loaan shark after he’s booted out of D.C..


27 posted on 04/28/2012 9:11:02 AM PDT by Vaduz
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