Elizabeth Warren has no reservations on Native status (Is Warren Harvard's Ward Churchill?)

Boston Herald ^ | April 28, 2012 | Hillary Chabot and Matt Stout

[Tennessee Nana]

her campaign still could not produce documents proving her lineage.
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No credible hereditary society will accept her without those proofs...

Shes not until she produces them..

[Qbert]

“The Cherkee kept very good records. I am only 1/64 & can trace back to 1750. If her family didn’t enroll or were not on any Indian census she most definitely is not qualified to be a diversity hire, no matter how many stories she heard!”

Yep. She apparently was also claiming minority status as a professor at other schools even before she was hired at Harvard:

http://volokh.com/2012/04/28/elizabeth-warren-herself-claimed-minority-status/

[dfwgator]

“CHEROKEE PEOPLE....CHEROKEE PRIDE....”

[Steamburg]

What a great rhetorical question.

[GOPJ]

I too, have a dream. I dream of a day where any person will be able to get a job, not by virtue of the color of his skin, the happenstances of his heritage; but by the content of their experiences, their qualifications and ability to do the job.

A worthy dream...

[allmendream]

Yes, always a grandmother’s grandmother - or otherwise far enough removed!

Unless I see a black and white wedding picture of a honky and a squaw - I ain't buying it!

[JIM O]

I am curious if she used her unsubstantiated native American status to obtain tuition funding. Her claim that she was unaware of the Harvard claim does not fly as prior to Harvard she was listed in a national professors directory as native American. That directory obtains its information directly from the professor. she is a fraud.

[Savage Beast]

"Chris Miller, a secretary with the Delaware Tribe in Oklahoma, said he could not find Elizabeth Herring or Elizabeth Warren listed in the tribe’s official records."

Shucks! I was thinking maybe Herring was one of those animal names like "Running Bear" or "Crazy Horse"--something like that--maybe Warren had something to do with rabbits.

Anyway, she could claim that as evidence. The press will back her up. Even "discover new evidence" to prove the Tribes wrong.

Elizabeth's not worried. She knows as well as anybody that the Left doesn't give a flip about truth; so the whole exposé is red herring.

Exposure of a forked-tongue never interfered with a Leftist powwow.

Massachusetts is like Arkansas. ('Scuse me, Arkansas.) (I couldn't resist knowing how much Massachusetts Leftists would hate the comparison.)

Remember when the reporter told that Arkansas woman that Clinton had had an affair. And she said: "I don't believe it." And the reporter said: "But he has admitted it." And the woman said: "I still don't believe it."

Truth is of no interest to the Left.

Much as they love to deny it--what they care about is WAMPUM!

[Hiddigeigei]

About 20-30 years ago, my two stepsons received a check from the federal government because their names were on the Delaware tribal role. So the Delawares also keep pretty good records.

[EDINVA]

It’s easy enough to believe she’s a “Native American” as am I. Descended from Indian tribes? Another story altogether.

[Roccus]

No credible hereditary society will accept her without those proofs...

Shes not until she produces them..

...and yet Zer0 is still "President.".........(sigh)

[DannyTN]

I got one for my family. Black and white photo of a methodist minister and a full blooded Cherokee squaw on a covered wagon. They both look mean as snakes too!

[allmendream]

Well good for you.

The vast majority of those making a vague claim of vague Native American ancestry don't seem to have one wit of evidence.

They apparently belong to the Wardahoe tribe like Proff. Churchill.

[p. henry]

Ditto that.

Warren is a fraud to claim that she is proud of a heritage that may not exist and which she has not researched. The resources to do that research are readily available.

The lore in the family of my ex-wife is that the fellow that took them through the Gap circa 1820 was the half-breed son of a man who eventually became the head of the Cherokee nation. After much research, the only evidence I found that would support that claim were pictures of an ancestor of my daughters who certainly seemed to have Native American blood based solely upon her appearance and a reference online to writings by the pioneer himself that apparently claim that heritage. The various censuses and rolls of the Cherokee do not support it. I tend to doubt it, because the Chief would have had to have been about 14 years old at the time of the pioneer's conception. On the other hand, people were very precocious in those days, and one of the Chief's many acknowledged children did bear a name identical to that of that of the pioneer. So, who really knows what happened so many years ago?

[untenured]

Warren, who said she was told through family lore that her maternal parents were from the Cherokee and Delaware tribes,

I wonder if that's a reporter's blunder, or if Prof. Warren really said "maternal parents."

[Tennessee Nana]

That “family lore” thingy...

There are people who will say a great aunt said they were directly descended from George Washington...

Now since there would be lots of prestige and lots of societies that one can belong to who wouldnt like that ???

But then they want someone else to find them the proof..

Well of course there is none...

George Washington never had any children of his own...

He married Martha a widow with 2 children..

The line would go up from John Parke Custis the one child who had children not to George but to that dead husband and father Daniel Custis, and to his ancestors...

As in this case, whoever is in the direct bloodline ...

and I dont know of many Native Americans who havent proven their lineage...

We’re talking about a rich educated family who would have no reason not to have knowledge of their forebears and have some documentation or other...

HEY !!!

even 1/16 is only back 4 generations..

one of her great great grandparents would be Cherokee or Delaware etc...

Since shes 62 that ancestor would have been living about the time of the Civil War

Maybe he/she lived till 1900

How hard would documentation be to find ???

Im sure Who Do You Think You Are? would love to take a crack at this for her...

[Tennessee Nana]

Heres a thought too...

If her parent or grandparent were a proven member of a tribe she wouldnt have to go back that far to the original full blooded Cherokee...

[BO Stinkss]

I’m a Native American too. I was born here - that makes me a native to America. I’ll start putting that on all my offical documents from now on.

[niteowl77]

It is ‘family lore’ in just about EVERY American family that there is some vague Native American ancestry somewhere in the lineage - absolving one presumably of the white guilt for us being better at warfare and enacting the historic trend of agricultural societies dominating and replacing horticultural societies.

I fell prey to it myself - thinking my paternal great grandmother was half Blackfoot based upon “family lore”.

Then I saw a picture of my paternal Grandfather's mother - and she was about as German looking a Fraulein as I had ever seen.

I was sent some old family apocrypha that contained one single reference about one of my ancestors having "indian" antecedents. I felt it unlikely that there were a lot of Native American women surnamed "Jones" in 1820s/1830s Ohio, but if all it takes is wishful thinking, well...

Mr. (possibly "Chief") niteowl77

[newzjunkey]

The Cherkee kept very good records. I am only 1/64 & can trace back to 1750.

I didn't realize that. I should look into their records someday. It's never been clear if the Cherokee woman introduced to my father as his grandmother was, in fact, a blood relative or a woman his grandfather had later taken as a wife. We don't have family records from that branch beyond perhaps two photos of his parents. They were too rural, too poor, too lacking in education.