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Blind Chinese dissident speaks exclusively to Channel 4 News (Chen sold out by US Government)
Channel 4 News (UK) ^ | 5/2/2012 | Channel 4 News

Posted on 05/02/2012 2:53:56 PM PDT by Yossarian

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To: Yossarian

Well, he left of his own free volition, even if the promise of an escort of embassy people was broken. The preezy and lapdog media will focus on that, saying Marines weren’t ordered to drag him out. If they don’t accuse him of lying, that is.


41 posted on 05/02/2012 4:57:55 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: DManA
Watched the evening news at 7:00 pm to get more details....It was CBS’ lead story...checked over to Fox with Shep a couple-three and heard no mention of it!!??

Could it be that CBS is embarrassed because Obama/Clinton action.

Damn Dissidents they are interfering with Obama beats Oasma Presentation./s
What's up with FOX?

42 posted on 05/02/2012 4:59:40 PM PDT by BilLies ( The Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , PBS etc., hate your Loyal American guts!))
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To: GeronL
The US is no longer a beacon of liberty

America is only a beacon for deadbeats, terrorists, never-wazzes, illegals, dimocrats, homos, and Obama. All good for nothing. All dregs of society. All costing tax payers millions while producing nothing but more illegal crack babies.

43 posted on 05/02/2012 5:12:19 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: Yossarian
Read his lips:

Obama: "We Welcome China's Rise"

44 posted on 05/02/2012 5:15:11 PM PDT by 444Flyer (~Leaning on the everlasting arms~ (Deuteronomy 33:27) (John 3) /// Thailand? Rev. 20:1-3)
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To: Yossarian
Ah, The Cowardly Obama at it again.

He's so busy celebrating his so very tough call on “getting Osama” he has no time for anything else.

Oh, BTW Obama thank you so much for adding those TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEBT. It puts China in a very nice and comfy strategic position.

FUBO.

45 posted on 05/02/2012 5:30:06 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: elpadre
The US owes China too much money and they can do what they wish with us - thanks be to Obama

Not really. This is about statism and how people like Obama view government power. As far as Obama is concerned this man belongs to the commies and they own him. Obama was just returning their property.

Also note how our government spews propaganda with the statement "he is being reunited with his family". This is Elian Gonzales all over again.

46 posted on 05/02/2012 5:47:16 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Yossarian

China could hurt our economy very badly. No on has the guts to stand to them.


47 posted on 05/02/2012 5:54:52 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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27 posted on Wed May 02 2012 17:47:16 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by chessplayer: “Sad to say, but Chen never had a chance. Maybe in some other embassy, but not ours. We’re so up to hock to China and need their money so badly, any President would have thrown Chen under the bus. I hope this is used against the preezy, though.”

25 posted on Wed May 02 2012 17:42:43 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by ingeborg: Has Willard Romney spoken out yet? I bet not or he just mews something very soft.

I agree that money talks. Maybe Romney can call Huntsman (the former American ambassador to China) and spend a few million to work out a deal that embarrasses Obama. Romney seems to be good at using his money to buy votes.

That, of course, assumes that China isn't perfectly happy with seeing Obama in office.

But who knows? I trust the Chinese to be concerned about their own self-interest, and they know from firsthand experience that socialism doesn't work. Maybe they'll actually be willing to listen to an argument from Romney that this is a good chance to embarrass Obama so they don't lose their investment in the American economy.

The sad thing is that even as I'm posting this, I'm realizing that I don't want to help Romney win. The goal needs to stay focused on what's good for Chen, who seems to be a sincere dissident opposing China's one-child policy. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy (i.e., Romney) is useful, even if he's not your friend.

48 posted on 05/02/2012 6:07:23 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Yossarian

Does this remind anyone else of Elias Gonzales? Always trust the left to side with the totalitarian thugs over the individual’s freedom. Common link: Hilary.


49 posted on 05/02/2012 6:08:41 PM PDT by Stand W (Crush your enemies! See them driven before you! Hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: kabar

when you owe the bank a million you have a problem, when you owe the bank a billion, the bank has a problem.


50 posted on 05/03/2012 3:49:33 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2
Yeah, right. This silly notion that the US, the world's biggest debtor nation, has the advantage over China because we owe them so much money is pure nonsense. It is far better to be the banker than the debtor.

The US is almost $16 trillion in debt. Our debt servicing costs are now abour $300 billion annually. Once interest rates increase to more normal levels, we will be incurring almost trillion dollar a year interest payments. In fact, our interest payments to the PRC will be enough to fund their military.

In the meantime, China will be using our debt to influence our behavior in much the same way we used to do when we were the world's largest creditor. The Fed already buys 61% of our issuance of treasuries to fund the 42 cents of every federal dollar spent. We are the ones with the problem, not the Chinese.

51 posted on 05/03/2012 6:50:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
We owe the Chinese $1 trillion. When your banker speaks, you listen.

Ya know what, maybe this is because I was bullied as a kid in the 1970's and then was told to stand up for myself. If I was President, I'd fight for this guy, no matter how much we owe to Red China. I wouldn't care because it is the right thing to do. There will be a time to tell them to FOAD, for whatever reason. I'd say, "sorry, we're flat broke, declaring bankruptcy" and then reorganizing. I'd let them know our military is on high alert if they try something stupid, if they don't that's good, but I'd be ready if I had to stand up to them. I'd have the Minutemen II's and III's ready to go as with our SLBM's and B-52's but I'd say, "if you don't try anything, we won't." Come to think of it, I would not want to be President, I'd probably flip them The Bird, say something obscene and start WWIII but we can't kow-tow to them either. I just think back to me being bullied and shoved around as well as when you see animals backed into a corner with nothing to lose, they fight the hardest. Even a rabbit or a day old baby chick, when cornered will fight and despite them looking cute, they can be nasty. Still if I had to call the shots, I'd fight for what is right, money be damned.
52 posted on 05/04/2012 6:43:36 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I brought up little Elian in one thread too.


53 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:46 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: redgolum
China could hurt our economy very badly. No on has the guts to stand to them
Come to think of it, sometimes I wish I was President, I stand up to them, I would not care. Tell you the truth, deep inside, I'd be scared, but when you think about when people need to do the right thing, sure they were scared but it needs to be done. I'm sure down from our Founding Fathers to the men at Normandy, they were scared too but they did the job and fought for what is right.

I was watching "Gunsmoke" today (I was off today) and I turned to my mother, "we need more Marshall Dillions and less Obamas" and she agreed. We need a Marshall Dillion in the White House and to stand up to the Chi-Comms and others who would hurt us.

I'm a typical amateur radio nerd that got bullied as a kid. I'm very nearsighted and a little bit on the short side but now I refused to be bullied anymore, we need to adopt that as a country.

As a country, we need more "Gunsmoke" and less "Jerry Springer."
54 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

I agree we should stand up for our principles, but we also have to deal with reality. The best thing we can do is stop these huge deficits and get our fiscal house in order. Our interest payments will fund the Chinese military.


55 posted on 05/04/2012 9:38:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I agree we should stand up for our principles, but we also have to deal with reality. The best thing we can do is stop these huge deficits and get our fiscal house in order. Our interest payments will fund the Chinese military.

Agreed. However, I would refuse to be bullied plus the fact that we would be funding their army as well. It would be like me buying The Son of Sam (David Berkowitz) an AR-15 or an AK-47. Overall, I don't know how on God's Green Earth we will ever pay it off although I believe we should just say "sorry" and punch out and then reorganize with the intention of getting our house in fiscal order as well as return to a more Constitutional based system.
56 posted on 05/06/2012 1:18:01 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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