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Wind farm scam a huge cover-up [Australia]
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/wind-farm-scam-a-huge-cover-up/story-e6frgd0x-1226345185075 ^ | May 03, 2012 | James Delingpole

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:31:58 AM PDT by No One Special

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1 posted on 05/03/2012 5:32:00 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special
You'd think successful wind farm design would be widespread, but apparently the devices that work well in Bloomington illinois do not work in Australia, or the devices in Australia are a different sort of design.

I've been to Bloomington many times and you feel none of the symptoms this guy suggests are present everywhere. Now, if he'd like to finance the trip, I'll go to Australia and see if I can detect a difference ~ then if there is a difference maybe they can fix it.

Maybe Australians think these things are supposed to hum.

2 posted on 05/03/2012 5:44:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

IMHO, wind farms are all scams. They never operate profitably without huge amounts of public cash as subsidies.
And, then there’s the birds. A friend of mine is the licensed electrician for a local wind warm. One of his duties is to pickup and dispose of the dead birds carcases every morning.
The management does not want the public to see all the dead birds.


3 posted on 05/03/2012 5:55:06 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: muawiyah

The damage, it seems, is caused not so much by the noise you can hear but by what you can’t hear: the infrasonic waves that attack the balance mechanism in the ear and against which not even home insulation can defend you. Its effects can be felt more than 10km away.


4 posted on 05/03/2012 5:57:16 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: G Larry

Elephants communicate over long distances by infrasonic sounds. Even elephants miles apart through dense forest can communicate like this.


5 posted on 05/03/2012 6:06:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: G Larry
I've been around HUNDREDS of windmills ~ my balance has never been affected. I've never just sat there staring at the wall. The ewes in the area are not reported to have ever aborted. The pigs didn't give up mud. The chickens continued to lay high omega 3 eggs with yolks. The cats slept in the sun. The dogs barked.

Last time I observed a Boy Scout gathering at a skeet shoot and not a one of them behaved any differently than any other Boy Scout I've ever encountered. They hit the clay pigeons. The guns fired properly. The boxes of shells didn't fall off the tables and blow themselves up. The windmills continued to turn overhead, silently, majestically, and expensively!

I think the lack of efficiency is where these devices get knocked out of the ballpark ~ the rest of this stuff might be real to someone but ............ I've heard the same stories about SECOND HAND SMOKE!

6 posted on 05/03/2012 6:07:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: No One Special

Anyone remember the power line scam here about 25 years ago? People near high voltage power lines claimed the same problems due to the induced magnetism.

A local company then built a large number of homes right under the power lines from a local power plant. The houses sold well and no one has complained for the last 25 years.

The power of suggestion is still very strong. Tell someone they “look sick” and soon they will begin to feel sick even though they are well.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 6:16:48 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: cripplecreek
Elephants communicate over long distances by infrasonic sounds. Even elephants miles apart through dense forest can communicate like this.

BINGO...We have a winner.

That explains the curious and irritationg whistling sound that Obama makes when speaking.

Communicating to the drones.

8 posted on 05/03/2012 6:17:02 AM PDT by spokeshave (If Obama is Lenin....who are Trotsky and Stalin...?)
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To: No One Special
You *know* that wind farms are a scam when Ted Kennedy,Walter Cronkite,Carly Simon and numerous other "beautiful people" come out in opposition to a huge one near Cape Cod/Martha's Vineyard because it might hurt property values.

(I kid you not,it happened...google "Cape Wind")

9 posted on 05/03/2012 6:20:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: G Larry
Which would you rather look at?

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Wind power

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Or Hydro?
10 posted on 05/03/2012 6:21:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Which one requires more eminent domain to buy out and displace people who don’t want to sell so that a wind farm or lake large enough to be used for hydro can be made?


11 posted on 05/03/2012 6:50:10 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: green iguana

Considering the fact that there are literally thousands of hydro adequate reservoirs in the country, no imminent domain needs to be used unless its to put in a small generator building.


12 posted on 05/03/2012 7:00:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Way back when ~ there was this big ice storm right in the heart of basketball season and a powerline feeding into the Southport High School fell down into the parking lot ~ NO ONE COULD LEAVE THE BUILDING ~

I always think of that event whenever someone proposes living under or very near a high tension line. DOES NOT COMPUTE ""BSZ+TLBLKZZ COM' $@$% pute!?BZ T"

13 posted on 05/03/2012 7:23:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek; TEXOKIE; ELVISNIXON.com; SunkenCiv; E. Pluribus Unum; CharlyFord; OneLoyalAmerican; ..

The environmental movement is, of course, governed by liberalism which in order to survive must continually go one up on whatever was done yesterday. So,if someone puts up a windmill, the next guy has to put up ten. Then, to prove the windmills are the future then next guy has to tear out a hydro-electric dam that works silently with renewable energy, but doesn’t fit the new paradigm.


14 posted on 05/03/2012 8:04:23 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: No One Special

Governments are inherently easier to scam because they can be scammed in the guise of the “public good” where you only have to convince one beaurocrat to buy your “snake oil” for the “public good” or the good of their career and you are set for life.

When you scam individual citizens you have to convince a much larger number of people to get in on your scam and with each person you add to your scam the greater chance you will be exposed as a charlatan. Also the greater chance that a bunch of unhappy customers will show up at your door with torches and pitchforks or even worse lawyers....


15 posted on 05/03/2012 10:20:56 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: muawiyah
I've been to Bloomington many times and you feel none of the symptoms this guy suggests are present everywhere.

Unless you've lived in proximity to one of these wind farms your experience is completely irrelevant.

16 posted on 05/03/2012 10:25:49 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: cripplecreek
Hydro, but in the Pacific NW, the environmentalists are going to court to remove dams on the Snake river to start, to save the salmon.

In the NW where hydro is the only power generated for a very long time they want to replace all the dams with windmills. Save the fish kill the birds!! That is how logical the environmentalists are.

17 posted on 05/03/2012 2:00:19 PM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: thirst4truth

They’re removing dams here too but that doesn’t mean I’m going to say “OK we’ll go with what doesn’t work”.


18 posted on 05/03/2012 2:07:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: green iguana
In hindsite.....when most big lakes were built..they/we should have placed in hydroelectric turbines...

Yes, it's more money...yes you have to have high wires going out..but it just seems to me...it could have been done with centralizing planning...way back when.

Granted...they aren't always producing a lot...and there are issues around the world with damns on rivers....But I'm thinking...if you place a damn...you may as well get some energy production from it.

19 posted on 05/03/2012 4:27:46 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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OO - I agree w/ just about all you said, except for the centralized planning part. You’d have to be an idiot to put in a new dam now without having the potential for hydro power.

cc, I was thinking more of the new lakes that will be built, whether for power generation, flood control, water supply, or whatever. Those tend to displace a lot of people who don’t want to go, as opposed to wind farms which are usually placed on leased land where the owner is amenable. But your point is well taken, tho’ I’m guessing it would be quite the chore to retrofit an existing dam with power generating turbines.

Never really looked into it tho’. I think you’ve given me a suggested topic for my soon-to-be 6th grade son the next time he has to do a “save the earth” project for school. Which I’m sure will be this fall...


20 posted on 05/04/2012 7:01:10 AM PDT by green iguana
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